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[–] rklm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

I've been using linux for 18 years, but since reviewing the Open Slopware list I've been making a lot of changes.

FreeBSD ticks almost every box I need it to. It runs Plasma, it runs Steam/Proton (through a thin compatibility layer that enables a lot of other linux software), it can be set up immutably and has superior containerization natively via jails. It even supports XDG compliance.

But there is no support for changing voltage or clock rate on any amd gpu (maybe any gpu at all) and no driver support for my newer amd gpu at all.

It honestly feels like how linux used to feel back in the day πŸ˜…

I don't think I'm gonna jump ship just yet. The recent ai code fiasco that happened in the linux kernel (race condition, regression, vacation) was averted by the team of talented human developers who reviewed Linus' code. I am choosing to have faith that it will be ok for a while... given there are few alternatives.

That being said, I think I might finally be ready to hop on the fuck-sysyemd train. I was able to look past the megalomaniacal tendencies of the dev because the tools were so convenient, but the AI PRs and code review pushes me over the edge. I am gonna configure a daily driver in Artix soon.

Edit: I should note, FreeBSD also has some AI code issues. But the linux-libre kernel might not. Something like Hyperbola (GNU/Linux-libre) might be more appropriate for someone who is trying to avoid ai code strictly.

[–] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago

Last I tried, BSD didn't like the WiFi on my laptop, so it's currently a no-go for me.

Gonna survive on Linux for now, but at least I know I have a potential refuge elsewhere.

[–] msage@programming.dev 4 points 6 hours ago

I use Gentoo with OpenRC btw.

[–] vikingtons@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

can you elaborate on the recent fiasco you mentioned? I totally missed the news on that

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Linus admitted he uses LLMs sometimes, so now the most trustworthy developer in the history of computers is now being shat on and raged about by people who probably couldn't write a hello world app in any programming language. They're just parroting the idea that Linux is vibecoded now, but it isn't, and if anything they should be heartened by the recent decision to raise the bar for kernel contributors. Instead, they're pretending Linus and other contributors aren't trustworthy at all, based solely on a desire to feel outrage. When people correct them on these lies they're spreading, no one ever admits they are wrong and stops spreading it, they just don't respond to comments like that and continue writing them elsewhere.

Tldr; people are stupid.

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 2 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

You didn't answer the question at all.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 32 minutes ago

I take it you're another outrage junkie who cannot help but tell everyone the kernel is vibecoded. Your feedback is only valuable in that it communicated that

[–] rklm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Linus introduced a race condition and a regression with a AI generated code, then handed off fixing the problem to someone else because he was going on vacation.

Fiasco might have been an exaggeration, but it's still pretty lame.

https://lkml.iu.edu/2610.1/13698.html

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 hours ago

Race conditions are not unusual, and it was caught during review, so there's really no problem here.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 63 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

This was caught during review, so nothing was "introduced" quite yet. And there's no indication that Linus wouldn't have produced a race condition (a notoriously more easy to miss kind of bug) without the use of AI tools.

It's only being exaggerated so much because he used AI.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yea he basically said "This seems to work but is slop, lead Dev, make it real."

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago

That is something I am surprisingly okay with. Quickly figuring out if something is feasible is good, and doing it in a back of the napkin style is the norm, even without LLMs. Of course then you need to do it properly, without falling into the trap of reimplementing the slop.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I could attribute the race condition just as much to their use of the C language as to AI.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 47 minutes ago

Race conditions I'm pretty sure aren't language specific. Rust can have them too.

[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Great
This doesn't make me nervous at all...

Hide_the_Pain_Harold_AndrΓ‘s_AratΓ³

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

It shouldn't, because it's a lie.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Not what happened. I'm not digging it up but this story has been debunked repeatedly

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

(you're welcome to just point folks to a debunking)

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

People are welcome to stop spreading the falsehoods. In every thread where this is said (including this one), the truth is pointed out but those spreading it couldn't care less. Just scroll. Others are pointing out the details here just like every other place.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Literally you got hit with an linux mailing list saying this is what happened?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Those words don't make sense