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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 7 points 1 hour ago

Yet more evidence for my “never trust a self described libertarian” stance. Hasn’t failed me yet.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Might as well mirror the whole site, run it elsewhere where the suits don't have control over people.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

I have an old 2023 copy of Wikipedia saved to my NAS using kiwix. This is probably the most recent version I'll ever need. But yeah, it's long overdue for some healthy competition, conflicts have been brewing for over a decade at this point.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We should probably all be downloading the website and printing off the important stuff, like how to make fire and why the sky-spirits get mad sometimes.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Should probably pull down a copy of Project Gutenberg too.

Maybe there's something of human output worth saving. If only so more fortunate future generations, should any exist, can pinpoint where shit went wrong.

[–] grepe@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

the startups and nonprofits alike peak when it's the people who do the actual work that create them to solve the actual problems yhey have and they fall when a bunch of mba's take over to "make money"...

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

Cancelled my monthly. I'll start it again when I receive info that the workers have a union.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 16 points 7 hours ago

I hate this. I really hate this.

[–] liking625@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

So they shit on workers rights....

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 23 points 8 hours ago

I only donate from time to time but people who cancel recurring donations should write to them the reason as to why.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 56 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand this, the employees are few and the pr fallout + fighting this is much more expensive than just agreeing to what they demand

Plus it's a foundation and shouldn't have profit

[–] antonim@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago

the employees are few

WMF has 650 employees.

What they're going to demand is preventing arbitrary layoffs, less bullying in the workspace, etc. Supposedly the Foundation is very toxic workplace. It's not (just) about the money.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 78 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

This is bad.

…But I’m very worried about the future of Wikipedia.

Questionable leadership or not, it is a lighthouse in the information dystopia of the 2020s, which literally helps hold society together.

The far right wants it gone, and are not shy about screaming it, because Wikipedia is not compatible with fascism.

If it becomes hated by the left too, and ignored by the masses because of Big Tech blacklists it, I worry it won’t have the political support to keep its prominence.


And to be clear, I’m not worried about it dying. Wikipedia will stay where it is for decades.

I’m worried about it ceasing to be popular.

It doesn’t function as a uncontrolled source of information if no one sees it. Modern fascist censorship works by simply shifting attention.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 43 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The Wikimedia foundation vastly outpaces expenses. Despite doing their best to convince you if you don't donate $10 right now Wikipedia will literally evaporate 🥺🙏

They can afford to not pay like shit

They're also wasting massive amounts of money on things outside their core mission and scope.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

thanks for this info, cancelled my recurring donation 😮‍💨 I'll give that money to a small local org instead

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

some entries are already questionable asf. some of them are written like an opinon piece, or a hs essay.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 28 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Wikipedia is made by people, like me and you. If you see bias or wrong information, you can either fix it or flag it with an appropriate template.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

Unlikely you can just 'fix' most points on articles. They have mad gatekeepers.

[–] MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

I really would like to, but German Wikipedia for example is something of an inner circle where you can't do shit. They don't allow newcomers to touch most of the articles.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Please link such an article. I have never ever received a link to one when asking this question and I always ask for one/them when I read such "accusations".

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

I am also curious what AnBee tried to edit and was refused.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 7 hours ago

If you're a newcomer, start with simple edits. Fix small mistakes. Show the community you can be trusted.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 12 points 10 hours ago

Reddit, Wikipedia, Fediverse... powertripping mods are everywhere.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 hours ago
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Was wondering when they were going to enshittify.

Fuck you, Dimmy.

EDIT: just realized something. I listen to Cory Doctorow's podcast and he starts each episode off with a lengthy list of scheduled appearances. He's been mentioning an upcoming appearance with Jimmy Wales. Looked it up. They'll be on the same stage on August 17th. Wonder if this will come up.

[–] late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net 41 points 13 hours ago

Wikimedia please fire whatever consulting firm told you it's a good idea to do extractive capitalism as a non-profit foundation, reliant on long-term community goodwill and sustainable work ethics with low turnover rate

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 45 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I was initially 80/20 against/for Wikipedia's stance. I tentatively agreed with Wales' criticism of identity tracking for the initial vote, but needed more information to form a solid opinion. Then I saw the mention of their hiring a union busting firm in addition to their current relationship with a known union busting law firm.

Fuck them, 100%. I immediately cancelled my ongoing monthly donation, which I've provided for years. Until the Wikimedia Foundation recognizes their unionized employees and works with them in good faith, they will get not a penny from me

[–] man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

Yeah I'm cancelling my donation immediately. Not that my $2.30/month will break their budget, but fuck them now.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck. Yet another company I donate to behaving like shitheels. Fuck. No more donations I guess.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 11 hours ago

My rule of thumb is: donate to small developers, not large established projects.

Wikimedia Foundation does not run low on funds, and your donation is a drop in the bucket on their balance sheets.

For small projects and indie devs, your donation will have a much bigger impact.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 6 points 10 hours ago

Die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the enemy.

[–] amroth@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Oh, god damn it.

Canceled my donation.

[–] cabillaud@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago

Next headline: Wikipidia sends mobsters beating workers up during an information meeting.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 32 points 17 hours ago

If your so called free society has laws to protect child murderers and racists but nothing to support the right to join a labour union it's not a free society. Go back to the beginning and try again.

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