That ford CEO is consistently on the wrong side of everything. Not a chance. Not even if you threw in the upgraded aerodynamic cup holders
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Yeah, I'm staying the fuck away from Ford or at least the next 5 years. They outsourced all of their design shit to AI and then had to higher engineers back.
It’d be nice of someone told them you don’t need that big pedestrian smasher grill on an ev.
Especially since the sole reason for that bullshit is skirting fuel mileage requirements.
It almost looks like they have framing to obscure the true shape under the tarps
I sure hope so.
*child murderer
Of course it's a pickup. Average American never leaves his house without a fridge after all.
Won't find any of these under $40k at any dealer
Somebody not bezos should make small EV trucks
At some point you need to stop letting perfect be the enemy of the good. Bezos is a Slate investor, but that hardly makes a slate something that's made by Bezos. It doesn't seem connected to the Amazon ecosystem in any way.
It's really easy to purity test oneself into complete irrelevance.
"[Don't] [let] perfect be the enemy of good" is such an overused and rarely useful phrase, most often little more than a blunt object used to insist that people accept tepid compromises rather than daring to demand genuine solutions.
Not that EVs are bad of course, but EVs for 'everyone' as opposed to mass transit isn't a solution (although of course it is a slightly less bleak shade of shit than ICE vehicles for 'everyone'), and doing that whilst enabling people who are already benefitting disproportionately from the status quo to benefit ever more dramatically is even less of one.
It's really easy to compromise oneself into complete irrelevance too.
Anything that doesn't have mandatory telemetry gets my approval. It's a very low bar to clear but there really aren't any others trying to do it.
They're not saying to boycott it. They're saying people at least less evil should be competing.
Check out telo - i really like them (wish it were more affordable, but still, if i were to buy a new vehicle, itd be that one once available and vetted)
Telo and Canoo really went back to the drawing board and designed trucks around the skateboard design of an EV. No frunk, front seat as far forward as possible, relatively aerodynamic design. Carbros absolutely hated them and derided them to no end but the only real objection was that they looked so much different from the designs they are accustomed to to, that is, designs tailored to the specific problem of accommodating a large engine block. At some point we’re going to have to leave these designs in the past, it’s just a matter of time.
Meanwhile, the past:

Edit: the more I think about it, bringing back the Econoline brand specifically as an electric "cabover" pickup and/or van would be extremely cool.
(It wouldn't really be a cabover because the thing the cab is over is the engine and an EV doesn't have that, but you know what I mean.)
Gimme one of those except the cab is over a spacious frunk instead of an engine. Maybe make the frunk a big drawer that can slide out. That'd kick ass and look good doing it.
There's no room for a frunk; that's where your legs go. The engine in those things is under the seats and possibly behind the front axle.
[On a related note, that's why I kinda want a Toyota Previa. With a little modification (only because not all options were offered at the same time/trim level, so you have to swap), you could truthfully tell people you have a mid-engine, supercharged, AWD, manual-transmission vehicle... and then roll up in a minivan!]
Hadn't heard of those before. I like the Canoo design immediately, Telo less so but if they ever made a 2 door with a longer bed I'd probably be into it.


If telo actually launches a product I'll eat my hat.
Are you even wearing a hat, sir?
My ruse has been foiled!
Oh look, Ford is making another shit UV with a pretend bed, so innovative.
Will start at $30k with the mandatory fees, before the dealers "value add" it another $15k.
My 2006 Ranger is the last Ford I will ever own.
"The public doesn't want EVs" -Ford after fucking up again
One thing I will say is I wager they will have a midgate option, which could promote the bed to vaguely serious compared to a Maverick, in some situations. They have a few times mentioned surfboard in the bed, and double downed in their sort of reveal trailer, where they clearly show it laying down with tailgate up.
May be a decent compromise in a truck market obsessed with crew cabs.
Why won't they make a basic body on frame truck with a 6' bed? I want it.
Fathom is probably it's effect range
Great another monster sized truck that needs to do a 3 point turn to get on to my street because they can't corner worth a shit. Even Maverick - which might be the smallest pick up I can get in the US right now is the size of a large to mid sized pick up.
Man I'd love to have an EV truck that is the size of one of the old Toyota pick-ups from the 90s. Make me a truck that I can see over the roof of and I am sold.
This is nothing close to a "monster size truck", it's actually quite small. Its smaller than a Maverick even. And while you can argue its not quite as small as the compact pickups of yore, there's absolutely no universe where it's "monster sized".
The upcoming Slate truck appears to be the closest thing to that ideal.
Yea I my eye on the Slate, I'll wait to see the rollout on that one.
I put money down on a Slate. It was the closest to what I wanted; a simple, no bs, light duty truck that's electric.
Their site puts it at just a little bigger than 1980's Toyota pick-up.
Same. Seeing this new Ford Montstosity just makes me appreciate the Slate more.
A Maverick is almost exactly the same size as a mid-'90s Ranger, which is a compact pickup. The only difference is that it's got more cab and less bed.
(Source: I parked my Ranger next to a Maverick once.)
State of Charge channel on YouTube did some research (and speculation) and believes the battery will be a 51 kWh LFP.
That would mean the likely range on a mid-sized pickup (depending on the aero, wheel size, tires, etc.) is about 200 miles or less.
It is also confirmed to be 400V architecture. So its likely to be fairly slow charging (compared to the best possible charge speeds in recent EVs).
Informed speculation for those who are interested.
So they directly announced a few features, but nothing people couldn't have guessed based on what had basically already been said, They did confirm that it was about the same size as a maverick. Most notably they still aren't saying bed size.
Their flipbook additionally shows a hairdryer plugged into the bed, so a fairly decent wattage out of an outlet back there.
They also show and highlighted surf board in the bed. In a maverick footprint with crew cab this is pretty much absolutely impossible without a midgate, so seems like there will be a midgate option. Midgate would go a long way to making it a more practical truck.
If it's electric, why is the hood tall? There should be no need and it is a danger to pedestrian and cyclists.
Well they have been stuffing their covers to obscure the shape, so dont know for sure. Given their bragging about aero, it likely is not as bad as it looks.
The kid killer bumper is a feature, not a bug, apparently
The MSRP listed is almost the same price a new Maverick starts at. Now let's see if they actually produce enough to meet demand to keep it at that MSRP, or if this will be just like when the Maverick launched and the dealers tack on another 15-20k due to scarcity.
I'd consider this for a trade in of my hybrid Maverick, but we will see when it's fully revealed.
The Maverick is a truck, the mustang comes in a crossover, why even keep the names.
The mustang being thrown on that crossover is still crazy to me.
Could be a bison, but the scarcity on american market would be baked in.
How doesn't it tow, and what is the cargo capacity? To me trucks are about work. I hate 4 door trucks because to get cargo space compromises either length or need space. I had one before and it was not fun to drive but I used that full length bed. I have need to haul a big trailer as well. If it is the family I'll drive a car. (Spreading of cars, I want a tiny car as they are so much more fun to drive)
Based on the tone of their reveal, I'm not having high hopes for towing. Which would be a shame as I was hoping for a 4,000 pound towing capacity. Clearly targeted at city drivers that aren't doing a lot of real truck stuff.
Their emphasis on surfboard in the bed tells me they will at least do midgate for more workable bed... At least in fair weather conditions. That might make it ok at hauling wood from the store for projects.
On the carfront, would love for something like a miata, even with a short range.
I really wish they would make an ICE and EV versions of the 1980's Toyota mini truck, Isuzu Pup, Ranger/S10...
Who remembers Joe Isuzu?
Commercials were so much better back then.
That’s kind of a cool name. Odd choice for a pickup, though.