this post was submitted on 08 Jul 2025
642 points (97.6% liked)

Progressive Politics

2970 readers
377 users here now

Welcome to Progressive Politics! A place for news updates and political discussion from a left perspective. Conservatives and centrists are welcome just try and keep it civil :)

(Sidebar still a work in progress post recommendations if you have them such as reading lists)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] udon@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Nice, I think this is the most honest confirmation that Mamdani is in fact the best candidate.

[–] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

They're really gonna fuck him like Sanders huh

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Democrats are more scared of the left than Nazis.

changemymind.png

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Glances at Eric Adams

Some of those that work forces...

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago

As (neo)liberals, they stand to lose a lot if real leftists were ever in control.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I love how this asshole talks about "cannibalizing support" when he's openly against the officially recognized Democratic nominee for mayor.

What a fucking joke. I hope to fuck he gets primaried too. We need to stop letting these corpo democrats suck up all the oxygen in the room.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

How did he manage to stay relevant after his approval rating dropped to 27% in 2009?

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because democrat leadership is powerhungry controlled opposition. Same reason they didn't release the Epstein files either.

in case you forgot: https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe-biden-to-rich-donors-nothing-would-fundamentally-change-if-hes-elected/

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The "lesser-evil" party. The lesser part maybe true but so is the evil part.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

The lesser part maybe true but so is the evil part.

Always has been, otherwise it wouldn't be called the "lesser-evil" party, it'd be called the "good" party.

We've known for decades (and I do mean everyone by 'we', I'm not even American) that the democrats are also corporate bootlickers. It's just that their policies tend to be less anti-human generally. For a while, it was clear: Vote dem, get some consumer protections and slow improvements in healthcare, LGBT rights, etc. Vote republican, get every good thing repealed and new anti-consumer, anti-lgbt, anti-healthcare legislation introduced. Now the dems want to cater to the right for votes and the "lesser" part of "lesser evil" is starting to diminish. They're still the lesser evil, but they're also more in the way of true progress than ever.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

If they don't respect the candidate elected in the primaries, then the party has to go. I ain't voting blue no matter who any more. I fell for that these last 3 elections and look how far that took us.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Fades@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Democratic leadership is controlled opposition, there's no other way to say it

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even Jon Stewart said it this past Monday.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just like the Republican factions in The Spanish Civil War attacking each other for having the wrong ideology while the Fascists tightened their grip.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] chocrates@piefed.world 49 points 3 days ago (6 children)

They are gonna hand the election to the GOP because they refuse to fucking retire and let a new generation make decisions.

The DNC is just as culpable for both Trump terms as the GOP voters imo.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The DNC already handed the election to Trump. And now that a leftist gets any momentum the DNC are still doing everyhing in their power to prevent leftists from winning.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And they're flubbing it so hard, which is half the joke of all this.

Cuomo was a shoe-in, according to the polls, two months before the election. The dude was going to walk into Gracie Mansion without breaking a sweat. Then Mamdani - a virtual unknown State Senator out of Astoria - gets a bit of traction with his campaign platform and a ton of hate from the Zionist national media. Suddenly, this dark horse candidate is on everyone's TV screens. He's the center of the national fight over the Gaza genocide. And he's getting up on the TV to say things like "Buses should be free at point of use" and "Maybe we could get grocery store prices down if we ran them like the Post Office", which are the crazy left-wing ideas that nobody else is suggesting.

He's glad-handing Brad Lander after the man is bullied by ICE. He's talking about housing reform in one of the most expensive places to live in the country. He's getting car bomb threats from a guy who doesn't know he takes the subway to work. All the worst people you know hate him.

Wins by 12 points. Obama didn't have it this good.

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s not really a generational thing.

The DNC has been bought by the donor class. They operate under the (not insane) belief that they need huge sums of money to win elections.

Mamdani makes the donors unhappy, it’s as simple as that.

Mamdani is around the same age Pete Buttigieg was when he started getting into the national spotlight. Buttigieg doesn’t threaten the donor class, so full support. Fun memes and tweets about him going on Fox News and making a host look like a fool.

You see any popular candidate get crapped on by the DNC, go read what the candidate wants to do and ask yourself a simple question “does this threaten the wealth of the donor class?” If the answer is yes you are guaranteed that the DNC establishment are going to be fighting that candidate.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 43 points 3 days ago

So "blue no matter who" and "the time for debate is during the primary" is only meant to benefit corporatist, war-hawk candidates?? I'm shocked, I tells ya.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 23 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Its clear that Democrats are now the center (maybe center-right) party and there is no mainstream liberal party in the US

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

My friends from Canada have been saying this since the Obama years

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

The Hillarycrats Ride Again!

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 256 points 4 days ago (5 children)

"Democrats will be doing a disservice [...] if they don't come together and decide to support whichever candidate has the most support among them"...

what do you think a primary election is? it is literally seeing who has the most support among democrats. so this guy is the one who is doing the disservice of not deciding to support Zohran

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 155 points 4 days ago (29 children)

Yeah but the people don't know who they want. The DNC knows who the people want. This is why I nominate Hillary Clinton as NYC mayor.

load more comments (29 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe finally people will start getting it in their heads that the current Democratic party - aside from the obvious outliers, Bernie, AOC, Warren etc - is not acting in their best interests...

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I really don't understand why Warren keeps being put in the company of Bernie or AOC.

Bernie and AOC are leftists (center left), and Warren is firmly center right at best.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I really don’t understand why Warren keeps being put in the company of Bernie or AOC.

For the same reason Corporate Dems kept screaming "Biden is the most progressive candidate since FDR!" at any left-liberal who would give them the time of day. She's not a serious politician. She's a fence post. This is how far the party is allowed to go and absolutely no further.

You put Warren in with Bernie and AOC today. Then, when we get another Hillary or a Buttigieg or whatever on the ticket in 2028, you can tell progressives "See? Warren is being reasonable and joining with the very popular center of the party. They have progressive cred. Idk wtf Bernie and AOC are on anymore. They've clearly gone off the deep end. Besides, Bernie is a misogynist and I think I heard AOC is part Chinese. And don't even think about voting for the Green Party. They're all a bunch of KGB-infiltrated Russians."

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This whole situation has been the final straw for me and my support of the Democratic party. I used to think they were just incompetent and disorganized but this has shown that they are perfectly willing to openly sell our country to fascists to keep someone who is actually going to make a change for the positive out. I have never seen the democratic party unify so solidly behind anything other than hating on this guy.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

They also unified around hating bernie and let trump win

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand.

Mamdani is bad for New York because of what Trump has done?

While simultaneously using Trumpspeak?

Unity will allow the democrats to prevail?

A glob of unified uselessness is just as useless

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago

Nooo you can't do economic populism to win an election you're support to run solely on identity politics and protect the billionaire class! - Democrats.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

By this guys logic shouldn’t he be supporting the winner of the primary and admonishing those who say they will vote 3rd party instead of the other way around?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 156 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (33 children)

Mamdani: It's about the policies

Democrats: Gee whiz, you ran such a good campaign

Voters: It's about the policies

Democrats: Gosh, if only centrists could find such a charismatic guy.

They think everyone but them is so stupid. It's infuriating that the system is set up so we're forced to work with these twats.

We found that charismatic centrist they're looking for. His name is Barack Obama, and we're still dealing with the fallout of him campaigning on "change" and failing to deliver.

load more comments (33 replies)
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm actively telling dem politicians to remove me from their stupid fundraising lists over this. Hell if a dem has offered anything but open support for Mamdani I will not even entertain the possibility of donating.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 85 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As long as Democrats block popular leftist policy they are no better than the Republicans.

If a party only allows policy that consolidates wealth into the hands of the rich then it is useless to workers.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 48 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Welp, at this point anyone calling the us any form of democracy has to put the clown makeup on thick first.

You have a two party system with one party having no access to anyone not on a list of approved individuals vs the other party having a glorious leader and no access to anyone unless approved. The real sad part is only one of those two cares about holding power, so you have a nation of fascists (remember they did win that election) and a bunch of people who can claim some sort of moral high ground.

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Democrats are clearly unwilling to do anything to fix the problems we have.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago

"Democrats will be doing a disservice to the people they wish to serve"

So.... billionaires

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 93 points 4 days ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Are recalls a thing there? Because that Paterson guy needs to be recalled.

Edit: He’s not even governor. He served a partial term in 15 years ago and wasn’t even elected. This is madness.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

We cannot aford ideas without a plan for implementation or funding.

From Zohran's site:

Taxes on big corporations and the wealthiest New Yorkers

Zohran has a plan to bring down the cost-of-living through city-owned grocery stores, universal childcare, and other bold proposals, and he knows exactly how to pay for it, too. Zohran’s revenue plan will raise the corporate tax rate to match New Jersey’s 11.5%, bringing in $5 billion. And he will tax the wealthiest 1% of New Yorkers—those earning above $1 million annually—a flat 2% tax (right now city income tax rates are essentially the same whether you make $50,000 or $50 million). Zohran will also implement common-sense procurement reform, end senseless no-bid contracts, hire more tax auditors, and crack down on fine collection from corrupt landlords to raise an additional $1 billion.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›