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[–] content_educator_94@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Zionism is equivalent to Nazism.

Zionism at its heart is a form of violent Fascism, as well as a form of Settler-Colonialism that maintains it's prominence and territorial expansion by commiting genocide.

Zionism should be met with the same vigorous resistance and removal from society as Nazism.

Zionism PREDATES Nazism. Modern political Zionism started in 1897, the Nazi movement didn't begin until the 1920s.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

And because SO many people can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept and keep shouting their ignorance at us I feel the need to constantly yell back at them:

Anti-Zionism is NOT being anti-Semitic or hating Jews or hating the PEOPLE.

Anti-Nazism is NOT being anti-German or hating Germans or hating the PEOPLE.

Anti-Fascism is NOT being anti people or races or religions or literally ANYTHING except the politics/philosophy/actions/behaviors/hate/control/abuse that is fascism.

We are literally ONLY protesting the genocides, the murder of innocent people, the bombing of civilian areas, the abuse and horric conditions, the hate, the racism, the fear mongering, the lies, the gaslighting, the violence. WE ONLY WANT PEACE FFS!!! STOP CALLING US RACIST FOR WANTING CEASEFIRES!!!

Absolutely, I couldn't have said it better myself

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

Fuck USA too, fuck all these murder countries killing people.

[–] Hatchepsut@piefed.social 7 points 3 hours ago
[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

2 state solution.

No more Iran and US intervention.

Sanctions on Israel to rebuild.

If they managed peace in the balkans, then you can find peace anywhere.

[–] fogetaboutit@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Would germany want a 2 state solutions with the nazis? No. They obliterated them and send them to a tribunal.

No more nazis as a state. Now the modern germany exists.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This shit again.

No, Israel isn't Nazi germany. Nor is Hamas for that matter.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago

It's not that simple. East Germany is still far right politically and votes for authoritarian groups like AfD. The Nazis are gone but their influence is still there.

I get what you are saying and agree on the surface level. But the Nazis that were tried and removed were the leaders, not all the regular Nazi citizens. And Israelis hate Palestinians as much or more than Nazis hated Jews but certainly more than Nazis hated other Germans. And unfortunately it's easier to see on the skin level the difference in who is who. The two shouldn't integrate into a single country is my point.

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 7 points 7 hours ago

Palestine has a right to defend itself

[–] boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip 23 points 12 hours ago
[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 52 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

And even more importantly:

FREE PALESTINE!

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 16 points 14 hours ago

From the river to the sea

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Ideally you would do both.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I think sometimes people forget that the "fuck israel" has to be derived from "free Palestine" and just get a little carried away feeling comfortable in having someone they're allowed to meaninglessly hate and vilify as the badguy

There's a great quote that you must love the oppressed more than you hate the oppressor, and that framing made a big impact on me. So much of the discussion online about plaestine is centered on Israeli atrocities, moreso than Palestinian tragedy and loss.

I get why, but the important thing is the liberation of the Palestinian people. Hatred for their oppressor is meant to come from hatred of their oppression.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Mossad fucked with EVERYONE'S governments! From USA to Russia. You know, the pedo baby-eater who explicitly mentioned a plan to get rid of the poor.

And Glishaine Maxwell had Mossad awsociation too. Now look what they are doing to Palestine.

Hope you understand, that area needs to be fucking walled off, and anyone prevented from going in. Thanks to the religious nutbags, that entire area is a memetic hazard.

Now I'm not going to say nuke Israel again, but that place needs to be gone one way or another. Idk, deport them to somewhere else, then salt the land and have border guards preventing the place from ever being settled again.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The place you're saying to salt the earth is the stolen land of the Palestinians.

Which, thats kinda exactly what I mean by loosing sight of liberation for the oppressed. You're talking about whether to nuke the (stolen) homeland of a suffering group.

You gotta remember that the point is justice, not retribution. And jutice often should include consequences. But that doesn't make it the same thing as vindictive persecution.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

You don't understand, so long as there's some bibble bullshit about endtimes happening in Israel, there will always be someone trying to end the world. That's the specific issue here.

Of course, it's someone else's problem how to solve this ethically 🎵

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Zionism =/= Judaism

Aka fuck isreal

Free palestine

[–] SarahValentine@pawb.social 126 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Love me jews

Hate Israel

Simple as

I'm actually becoming deeply convinced that one of the biggest dangers to the Jewish community is Israel itself.

As things currently stand, they have the power to make people hate Jewish people more than just about anything else in this world.

Not because I'm conflating being Jewish with being Israeli or vice versa, but because that appears to be the message they want to the world to embrace. That is really synonymous with being Jewish.

Look at how quickly right wingers run the world are to jump to calling you anti-Semitic if you don't appreciate something israel does.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 82 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I’m a simple man.

I see people being nice, I respect them. I see people hurting others I say fuck ‘em.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You know what I mean? It doesn't have to be harder than that. It used to be how we showed each other what is acceptable and what isn't. That... doesn't seem to "take" anymore.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You would think a group that suffered the most horrific treatment from the nazis would do the exact opposite, not improve on their playbook

That “never forget” slogan seems to mean “shoot first so they can’t” lately.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

They missed the part about "turn the other cheek". Maybe that's not in their religion, eh.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.social 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago

Classic SatansMaggotyCumFart.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 47 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.

[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip 26 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it's hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn't forget people aren't their governments.

[–] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

To be fair, at least 1/3 of us are the deplorables who got us here.

[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

And even they are mostly decent people, just misguided by propaganda/misinformation.

[–] UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t think anyone not living in America understands how deeply propaganda is pushed here across media and culture. The ruling class has distorted everything so much it’s hard to have a coherent conversation with most people on real issues. The misinformation and capital class talking points are intensely deep seated.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Eh, the rest of the western world aren't really any better in this regard, as much as they try to pretend that they are

[–] bryophile@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think it's pretty obvious for us here outside the US too. It is like bad body odour, it is harder to notice when you're inside it and used to it.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

I take that approach for almost countries, but I have a hard time with Israel because their polls continue to show 80%+ support for the genocide. That’s a huge portion of the population to be irredeemable.

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[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:

https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis

https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010

That doesn't mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it's even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.

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[–] endless_nameless@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Very brave of you to take a stand against Israel on The Israel Hating Website

[–] Truthtwopower@lemmy.zip 16 points 19 hours ago

All my homies hate isreal.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 17 hours ago

This would've been a mildly hot take three or even two years ago, but in 2026 it's thoroughly milquetoast.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

I think not, fucking is something beautiful and way to nice for them

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