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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 115 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile in a meeting room in Stockholm:

Remember how we reduced music piracy to an insignificant amount by making the legal choice convenient and relatively affordable? I forgot! So let's torpedo our business.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those who fail to scan the address verification QR code within seven days will see their account demoted to the free tier and be barred from joining any other Duo or Family plan for 12 months.

Well that's pretty crummy. That's a very long ban, and a lot of extra money.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have to give location permission to a music app?!

I wonder if you can you log in on a new phone once you got the notification

[–] EisFrei@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

On android Bluetooth is tied to the location permission, because scanning for Bluetooth devices can be used to narrow down the device location.

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[–] milbyte11@lemmy.ml 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

spotify single-handedly increasing music piracy rates back to napster levels

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a certain poetry to them recreating the problem they solved.

[–] milbyte11@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

i just hope this means people will start buying music again. 1-10 dollars for an album containing 5-20 DRM free music files is probably better value in the long run than spotify's subscription ever was. and with navidrome, mpd, and its clients, managing them was never easier; plus artists get way more of that profit. everyone wins.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don’t forget the warmongering Spotify do. Their profits pays to create tech that’s aimed at killing you.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

I cut them out and canceled my subscription when they gave rogan that contract, fuck spotify

[–] Cleisthenian@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

This is why I deleted my account. Fuck spotify and its bloodthirsty ceo

[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they want it to be a household plan, they should call it that instead of falsely advertising it as a family plan.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 18 points 1 week ago

Exactly. Families are extremely varied in logistics and presentation… Businesses in their ivory towers imagine a stereotypical nuclear family where everybody lives in the same house. Out of 5 families I personally know; only one fits that description.

[–] wh90b@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago

Using a different music service is so easy. You can't even use the excuse that your friends are all on there. Stop giving them your money.

[–] Shin@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Navidrome.

“We'll heave and haul and roar o'er the dark blue wave!”

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[–] LeighWeighTacoma@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If they do this to me, I have zero reason to stay with them. My ex pays for it. If they kick me off because my physical address is no longer the same, I won't use them. I'm sure he will stop paying for the daily plan and go back to free or, use a different app altogether. Good luck spotify. Did you learn nothing from Netflix?

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Netflix actually ended up with an increase in subscribers from their crackdown. Maybe Spotify did learn from Netflix.

Netflix tweeted in March of 2017 that “Love is sharing a password” before launching its own enforcement policies in May of 2023. Later that year, Netflix raised prices up to 17 percent, and by April of 2024, the company saw the policy pay off with 9.3 million added subscriptions and a 54 percent bump in operating income.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Their stock is down 40% YoY and they are cutting thousands of staff including their director of content. Looks like it bought them 24 months of bluster and then their watchtimes plumetted.

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[–] solarspark@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

No, they didn't. Please, let's not interrupt.. I want them to torch their subscriber numbers

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[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're going to pay for music, buy it DRM free on bandcamp etc, or CDs and rip them, you can make multiple copies and anyone in your family can play them at any time. Shitify is a joke.

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[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Soulseek, people. Just pirate things and send money directly to artists (or buy merch). Fuck all these streaming companies

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have 8k albums in my personal collection, but I've been building it for years, most everything is pirated or shared between friends or purchased on bandcamp. I stream it while via plexamp when I'm working or not at home, it's very nice.

I can also connect to my friends Plex servers. My one friend has 35k albums.

Proof in case someone doesn't believe me haha

Edit: damn he's up to 39k

[–] 404found@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

"analysts are confident that music streaming services such as Spotify can enforce strict account policies, raise prices, and still make more money."

They looked at Netflix and Disney and they are right. This is a no brainer if you're a business. There's literally no downside other than angry comments online.

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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

'Burn baby burn' is possibly the most appropriate song for them

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And people have scoffed at me for buying individual songs on iTunes instead of just jumping in bed with Spotify....

No matter how bad my financial situation becomes, as long as I can still charge my iPhone I will have access to not only my full music library, ad free, I also have access to the 50+ audio books I have bought on Apple Books completely ad free.

I just need a way to download the audio books without DRM and save them on my home server to feel fully at ease.

[–] Shin@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know what would be better? Have the audio files, in flac, or at least high-res mp3 to listen whenever you want, from any device you want, without the need of an Apple account.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Which is why I have downloaded my music from iTunes as normal non-DRM files.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (7 children)

They did something like that once a few years ago. I didn‘t see their email and my account was swiftly permanently blocked from the program. No chance to appeal. I was pretty upset for a moment, then made a new account and connected it to the family account. If they kick me out again I‘m gone for good.

I‘m not paying the kind of money they‘re asking for to listen to some music and podcasts that run ads and sponsor segments. Discoverability became insanely bad years ago. Most of their recommendations are obvious product placements that they‘re not declaring properly.

So yeah, looks like Spotify is about to extract some more money from customers with dubious methods short term and losing a lot of us long term. But I am prepared.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

whats a good way to find new music based on a curated library/playlist/settings? i’m on apple for now but yeah.. this has always been rough finding new tunes or artists.

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[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago

And of course, this happens at the same time as they're announcing a price increase

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Ive spent all day working on a way to move my family off Spotify.

Ive settled on navidrome behind wireguard and a signal chat where they can request music. The requests are filtered through AI to format it before they are fed into sksld to be downloaded and moved into the respective family members navidrome library.

Will it work, I'm not sure but ive spent so much effort and I'm gonna be sad if they dont even try it out.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Christ, that UX sounds horrifying, honestly. I'm sure they appreciate your effort, but realistically I wouldn't expect anyone to use it over any streaming solution

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They are mostly set in their ways music wise so once I have 95% of their music which ive already done via Spotify cloning. It shouldnt be to many individual requests. I dont know I think saying !music chapel roan expectations and then having it show up a few mins later isnt to bad of a UX.

But yeah I don't know how else to make it better. It can never be "search and find any song" like Spotify. I did look into writing a plugin to hook it to soulseek but it didnt seem like it would be doable at my.level.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I use the slsk interface. It’s fine popping a few songs at once.

I generally hate Ai but I used it to tidy the old lists I had and present in the organisation level I wanted (albums etc) I then found a script, that when ran finds and DLs those playlists. It gets it about 95% right.

For navidrome it’s not great with the info pulled from music beats etc. I was trying to do it manual then I found a tool that lets me match an album to the music. It’s created for missing data/covers.

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[–] 404found@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Take picture of QR on primary phone. Send photo with QR to people on the family plan

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I need to get a RED account, ugh, the entrance test seems annoying but I want to selfhost my own music.

[–] phlegmy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Soulseek is pretty decent for music

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

This is desperation just like the disney ad thing.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

TIL that there are dozens of websites to find strangers to put on their own family plan to get some extra cash, meanwhile they will manage the payments

I wouldn't have imagined that there would be that many.

Paying a third party service to get into a stranger's family plan is against the ToS, so at that point, if you're willing to go against the ToS you can do it for free

[–] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Oh shit, I'm in trouble

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

I'm not on Spotify, but I'd like to use Qobuz. Sadly it's not available where I live. The idea is great though, listen whatever I want with an option to purchase drm free albums I like the most.

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