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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The 16GB was Usless, now it even more useless cause of the software it can run and its raw performance, Even the 8GB one went from reasonable for the performance to too expensive.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 21 points 15 hours ago

BananaPI board I used to use for some projects has gone from about 120-150 to almost 400. It’s not just raspberry with this issue.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 15 hours ago

16GB pie is like buying disposable silk toilet paper.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

This RPi has more ram than my gaming pc lol

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

16GB on a pi doesn't even make sense. It's super inefficient. That ramm would be much better off in a datacenter \s

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Think of poor Sam Altman before you buy a 16GB Pi!

[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Why are you so negative towards somebody who is not at all an ultra-greedy lying slimy sleazy sociopath and super-entitled cunt???

[–] CAPSLOCKED@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

he stole my bike drawing

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

This is reminding me of hikes in property prices. Soon, older people are gonna say shit like

  • I paid that much for 32 megabytes 25 years ago
  • Why do you need so much RAM? Just use fewer programs
  • If you didn’t spend so much money on Steam and Netflix you’d be able to afford it
[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

Just cut down on the avacado toast.

[–] KatherinaReichelt@feddit.org 3 points 12 hours ago

They currently are. Just take a look into gaming forums discussing graphic carts and RAM prices and there will be so many people writing that they are happy that they have bought their stuff a few years ago. Which really is not helping

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 12 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I started with computers in the cassette tape/5,25 floppy diskette era. RAM was measured in K's, not Megas, not Gigas. A flight simulator (white pixels on green background, yeah) fit in a diskette, 360 KB.

Code was ultra efficient, as RAM was tiny.

With time, and as RAM got proportionally cheaper, code got sloppy, because, hey, we got space.

It's true that programs today are several orders of magnitude more capable, but it is also true that code now is hideously RAM inefficient and bloated.

I'm not saying that the RAMcopalypse isn't real, I run a Ryzen 9 with 64Gb in my desktop, bought before the bubble, but as the Microsoft backpedal to 8 Gigs for W11, and the 8 Gig Macbook show, software should be rethought.

AND RAM prices should go back to normal. That's the win-win

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

Going back to the 8-bit era muddies the water. Those computers and programs really were so limited. However, comparing what we were doing 20 years ago on 2 or 4GB of ram vs now and you see the sloppness of the software.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 3 points 14 hours ago

You are expressing an illusion. The reason programs and operating systems use more ram is that they are doing more. If somebody stopped caring about resources it is web devs and Microsoft. Real-time and high end apps, like all games, have optimized frame time and the floppy era games is what looks sloppy in comparison. Except for sawyers insane games. Those are still somehow the cutting edge and a marvel of engineering to learn from 30 years later.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

It's true that programs today are several orders of magnitude more capable, but it is also true that code now is hideously RAM inefficient and bloated.

The entire codebase of software in production, yes. But one thing that people might not realize is that some of our software algorithms themselves, at least for certain algorithm families, are also much more efficient than before.

I thought this was an interesting overview:

https://futuretech.mit.edu/publication/how-fast-do-algorithms-improve

The focus isn't on memory usage, but the same general trend applies there: when someone discovered a new algorithm that improves on old ones, it can change the amount of memory used to accomplish a specific result.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 0 points 15 hours ago

Having written both hand-coded assembler for microcontrollers and vibe-coded WebUI ... things, I don't know where my allegiance lies anymore.

[–] philodendron@lemdro.id 6 points 1 day ago

Folks these days don’t know how to cut down on their startup programs

[–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Also I'm gonna sell my 32GB DDR5 for 5 times the price I bought it and then tell everyone "just work for a few years and buy RAM I did it myself back in the day"

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Why do you need so much RAM? Just use fewer programs

Even a broken clock...

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 70 points 1 day ago (2 children)

$385 for a 16 GB Pi seems crazy.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Arduino has a 16GB DDR5 board designed to run local LLMs for $299. And it has 64GB of storage on board. Granted it’s not as flexible as a Pi, but it has DDR5 RAM, and a good bit of storage on board for cheaper.

A 16GB Raspberry pi with DDR4 for $385 is just robbery.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I think 299 was just preorder 399 is current.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cheapest 16GB DDR5 stick I could go buy from the local computer parts store here in Finland is currently 363€, or $406.

[–] ducktumn@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I thought you were joking but even in Turkey the cheapest one is 300 dollars. I bought 2x16 for less than 100 couple years ago. Holy shit.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The rpi does not have ddr5, the price makes no sense

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 148 points 1 day ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (21 children)

The aim of those buying up all the RAM is to prevent people owning devices capable of serious computing, so we have to rent what we used to have back from them, with added censorship and surveillance. Sam Altman has been explicit about how he wants no one to own RAM except companies running data centres. The Raspberry Pi becoming unfeasibly expensive is just an example of that forced transition from owning to renting playing out. When it was introduced the Pi cost ~~$15~~ $35. We're in a different world now.

[–] PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

Sam Altman has been explicit about

Sam lies as easily as he breathes. Nothing he says is proof of anything.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago

I thought 64GB was overkill when I got it in my Framework laptop in 2024, but now I'm so glad that I did.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

When it was introduced the Pi cost $15

It was a 700MHz single core board with 512mb of ram...and it was $35, not $15

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ummm can't you just buy a full size all-in-one motherboard for that? I mean, if you need small size sure, but I originally bought Pi's because they were cheap and small. Now they're just small.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, and a modern x86 setup will be faster and likely even more efficient under load, with better software support too.

[–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep, and unless you really need the pi form factor just get a small n100 mini PC at this point. They are pretty much better in every way and are x86 so there's practically no limit to what you can run on them. I've seen n100 16gb mini PCs for as low as $60 on auction sites because some business will buy tons of them then sell them off for cheap when they upgrade.

Want something faster? Look into business small PCs they are about the size of the small ps2 and will have Intel i3s to i7s. I'd just recommend looking for one that is at least the 8th gen Intel if you care about power efficiency. If using eBay search for used auctions and use a bid sniper that uses the official api

[–] PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 0 points 12 hours ago

better in every way

are x86

Pick one.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Want something faster? Look into business small PCs they are about the size of the small ps2 and will have Intel i3s to i7s. I'd just recommend looking for one that is at least the 8th gen Intel if you care about power efficiency. If using eBay search for used auctions and use a bid sniper that uses the official api

Are they still available? When I looked recently, most of it was Haswell/4th gen, and/or the seller had taken nearly all the parts out, like the memory, drives, and CPU.

[–] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yes there will still be big sell offs I recently got a 16GB n100 from someone selling a batch of around 100. You can set up eBay notifications for saved searches it is getting more competitive getting one for $60 is the absolute best case expect closer to $80+shipping.

You can also check alibaba if you can spend bit more and have some older ddr4 laying around. They have n100 mini PCs with expendable storage and ram and multiple Ethernet ports. you can normally find them if you get the versions that don't come with any ddr4

Edit: make sure it's listed as compatible with ddr4 not ddr5 there are a lot of ddr5 versions now

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

N100 maybe not. N150 is what it going around lately. Price would be similar to rpi5 but is much more capable x86 machine.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

A raspi with 16gb of ram WTF!? why not just get a SFF PC instead at that point? Unless you specifically need portability or pin IO, I don't see the appeal of raspi anymore, especially at those prices (almost $400!!!)

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

last time i bought one was pre-pandemic, not sure exactly how much i paid, but was under $50 new, to hear they are $400 now... i guess i go back under my rock

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