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How many of those accounts on Reddit are dead? How many are bots?
There are a decent number of dead and bot counts on Lemmy as well though.
instead of constantly winging about data inaccuracies how about yall do something about it. comment a more accurate estimation and I'll edit my posts title and give credit. stupid smelly nerds
The usual thing to do when you lack reliable data to answer a certain question is to refrain from making broad, sweeping statements on the basis of data that don't support it. Other people are neither responsible for providing you with the evidence for whatever you want to say, nor does making bullshit claims make other people responsible for disproving them.
No one disagrees that Reddit is the larger community. But since large does not mean good, and reliable data are impossible to obtain anyway, it's kind of pointless to argue about the exact ratio. If I wanted to be on a bigger site, I would go there, and I don't.
Reddit is also over twenty fucking years old.
Yeah that's mainstream for you. And if ever those users started to really migrate to non-corporate social media like the fediverse, you bet I'll be peacing out to a smaller subset or just chatting on forums and private blogs.
I would be happy for them, but I don't know if it's healthy to round up that many users on one platform.
Accounts, not persons.
I'm like 7 of those accounts on reddit.
The other 24,993 are all bots, I promise.
everyone's a bot except you
Maybe this was true all along?
When I joined Reddit almost 2 decades ago, it wasn't nearly as large as when I left. After a point, bigger wasn't better, hence leaving. Lemmy will grow.
I wish more folks understood that bigger isn't better.
People out there praying for the next eternal September.
I tell them. Now is the good times. Now is what you will lament missing later. Enjoy now.
Lemmy is great.
This is so true! I feel like my social media history is over and over switching platforms because they turn into shit once they get too big. And now its reddit that got to that point (a while ago tbh). Not sure how to break that cycle but the federation gives me hopes.
Lemmy cannot be part of that same cycle because it has no owner. Those other services turning to shit coincided with them getting big, but it was not the direct cause. Those sites got big because they had a desirable service and an acceptable monetization model. Once they get big, the owner invariably turns the monetization screws more and more until it triggers an exodus big enough to effectively kill the service.
Lemmy can't do that because its just a foss self-hosted software program that a bunch of private individuals and groups are hosting and inviting us to join, with barely extant trivial barriers to migrating your account and history to another copy of Lemmy on some other guy's server.
The quality may diminish as the lowest common denominator deteriorates, but there can't really ever be monetization that is at all onerous or everyone will likely bail to a neighboring instance overnight.
I can see value with bigger, more robust platforms that can house smaller communities. More platforms like Lemmy could allow for a future where entire communities can move platforms if it no longer suits them or a better fit emerges would be nice. Need more platforms that don't constantly abuse their users with dark patterns for that to happen though.
Fortunately, there really is no motive to implement dark patterns in FOSS software, and its addition would promptly trigger a fork.
That's why I'm here. Really enjoying it, it reminds me of early days of reddit when it was just a bunch of nerds. I saw a socially awkward penguin meme yesterday, just need some gammer aficionados in the comments now.
Here, have my upvote. It's worth 25,000. ๐ช
I like it here, I came over from Reddit years ago and the only time I've been back is when searching for random tech or niche hobby stuff and a reddit thread shows up, but that's about to end too due to the login thing.
I'd rather hang out with a small group of friends than be alone in a massive drunken rave. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger
EdIT: Wow, this blew up!!!1
EDIT2: Omg, an upvote. I am touched. My thanks go out to my wonderful parents, my supportive spouse, my agent, my agent's agent, my second-favourite child, my therapist, my therapist's therapist, my high-school drama teacher who said I'd never amount to anything, the guy who held the door at the audition, my personal trainer whom I've never met, my dentist for the quiet moments, my accountant for the creative moments, my lawyer for the other creative moments, my neighbour's dog who barked encouragement at 03:00, my neighbour who owns the dog, the other neighbour who sold the dog to my neighbour, my mother's cousin's former roommate, my great-grandfather's horse, the horse's reluctant biographer, my childhood imaginary friend and his imaginary lawyer, my ex, my ex's new partner, my ex's new partner's ex, whoever left a half-eaten sandwich in the green room, the sandwich, the farmer who grew the wheat for the sandwich, the weather on the day the wheat was grown, the sun for showing up that day, the planet the sun lights up, my sourdough starter, Kevin, the other Kevin, the third Kevin who insists he's not a Kevin, my cat, my cat's imaginary rival, the vet who still won't return my calls, my Wi-Fi router for never giving up on me, the 14 % of the Wi-Fi signal that actually reached me, the man who invented the chair, the chair I'm sitting on right now, the tree that gave its life for the chair, the tree's family, the squirrel who stood by the tree, the squirrel's pension fund, the lady at the bus stop who nodded at me in 2009, the bus, the bus driver's mother, the pothole that built my character, the municipality that never fixed it, my left knee, my right knee for staying out of it, my append8x, which sadly could not be here tonight, my 3,412 followers, all four of them, my sleep paralysis demon for the stellar company, the voice in my head that said "go for it", the other voice that said "don't", the third voice that was just humming, my houseplant Gerald, Gerald's late predecessor, Gerald II, the mysterious stranger who once told me "nice shoes", the shoes, the cobbler of the shoes, the cobbler's cousin who dabbles in cheese, the cheese, the mould that made the cheese great, the lactose-intolerant colleague who still came to the cheese party, the alphabet for the letters, the number 7 for being consistently reliable, the number 8 for being a sideways infinity of encouragement, gravity for keeping me grounded, whoever invented Tuesdays, the Tuesday that changed everything, the stage, the floor under the stage, the Earth under the floor, the cosmic dust that made the Earth, the Big Bang for its explosive support, whatever came before the Big Bang for being so non-committal, my future self for pulling the strings, my past self for not stopping me, the multiverse versions of me who didn't win and who I hope are doing fine, the Academy, which I'm told is not who is giving me this award, the person who actually is giving me this award, the person who is confused why I'm still typing, the orchestra playing me off, the orchestra's union rep, the exit sign that has been glowing meaningfully at me for the last ten minutes, this guys dead wife, and finally, you, yes, you, for reading this entire list. You know who you are. I don't. But thank you.
Same but ive almost entirely abandoned some of those niche things bc their site is so awful.
Top comments before I actually read them all are quibbling about how the Reddit number refers to "accounts" rather than people, which is valid,
but let's be real: not so valid as to move the needle on that ratio very much.
I think the lesson here, is in just how few users are actually needed, in order to have a community that works.
People have this tunnel vision now, that sites like Twitter, which briefly became global information infrastructure and an arbiter of legitimacy, were somehow an inherent good, which has been ruined by Musk et al. I think it was already quite horrible, for our discourse, our culture, our ability to discuss things with nuance, and the fact that the whole world got locked into it has created a permanent albatross around our necks, as we struggle to reestablish a society of laws and science.
40k is probably about as many users as a site or network can have, with very tight controls on bots to be sure, before things get bad. The people who talk about the whole world moving to the Fedi as a "new twitter" free of capitalism, are really lacking imagination in how good the internet could be.
Yeah there's no way reddit has a billion users. Not human ones. They're doing everything they can to push people away. I'd be surprised if their user growth wasn't actually negative.
Accounts. Not people.
"People"
It's at least 2/3 bots. If not upwards of 80%.
Any subreddit that glorifies engagement above all else is just chock full of them. The relationship advice, the angry experiences, the politics, and all the nostalgia posting. It's all infected with bots.
Only 1 oyster in about 10 000 will form a pearl.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Aaaah I look forward to being banned from here for having opinions that don't jive with the new crop of fanatical neckbeards hellbent on creating a space where nobody can talk to each other unless they pass their one-dimensional purity tests.
Oh shit that already happened!
You can't engineer away one inch penises online, it's not something online can do for them!
There are dozens of us.
DOZENS.
In other words, you're saying that every Lemmy user is worth 25,000 Redditors.
Bonus c/autism has 10.6K subscribers implying that a quarter of our users are on the spectrum!
Seems low tbh, I bet some just aren't subbed to that community
Yeah, haha
*glances around nervously
Remember also that lemmy is just one part of the fediverse and that one server can have thousands of users and that there are thousands of servers...some public and some not public.
If you bridge people from mastodon, pixelfed, remove reddit bot and its dormant accounts, we are still small but not that small ๐ฅฐ
I still believe in the future of this website. While I still browse Reddit. I know that a social media site lives and dies by it's users. Almost all of the content on social media sites is user-generated. Every website started with a small user base and continued to grow from there. Why should Reddit get to be a for-profit publicly traded company, when besides hosting servers and other cost related expenses, doesn't create anything of value?
Scruffy believes in this company.
Honestly? Cause much of the entirety of the US tech capitalist model is just digital feudalism.
Create a compelling reason to join your digital kingdom then when enough people move there you put up the enclosures and start profiting off exploiting your subjects and charging tolls to people wanting to access them.
And ideally enough of that peasantry remain dependent on your digital commons that realistically they can't leave.
The upside is that this process naturally lends itself toward enshitification over time. The downside is that unlike messageboards of old, social media deploys incredibly addictive algorithms to keep a core type of user engaged. And then those habits harden and leaving feels impossible.
There isn't one human out of ten with a reddit account.
I'm not sure that Facebook reach that in its better days.
Taking into consideration a quarter of the population didn't have an access to the internet in 2025 (according to the world bank data), and considering that Reddit is not well know in many european place, that cannot be.
You are comparing apples & oranges: Reddit is counting everyone as MAU. Even a not-logged-in guy coming from google opening one page is a MAU for them. The Lemmy statistics are only showing users who are actively doing something. Upvoting, posting, commenting and so on.
So, when the war starts, each one of us has to take on 1000 people and ~24,000 bots?!