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There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine, with some of them even blatantly saying they support Putin and some others trying to put into doubt evidence of Russian crimes (kidnapping children etc.)
I have been banned from world by @little_cow@lemmy.world for calling one of them out. Also both of my comments, the one in the screenshot and another one where I explain to another user that he is arguing with paid Russian troll have been removed.
The community rules:
You deserved it, you broke the community rules by accusing someone of being a bad faith actor, which isn't nice.
accusing someone
It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.
which isn't nice
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It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.
This statement is simply false.
Accusations can be backed up by facts. They're still accusations. Facts can make accusations more convincing, but they don't stop being accusations when facts are provided.
Please give your evidence and citations the user is paid for by the Russian government.
What facts it's based on?
Sir, this is lemmy, we already have a lot of users who sounds like paid trolls, this platform is too small to be targeted by some psyop, I would guess they are simply stupid/delusional/tankie than to be a paid russian agent.
It is not an accusation if it is based on facts.
Your comment was against the rules of the community. Use the report button, bring it to fediverselore, whatever, but that doesnt change the very simple fact here - you broke the rules.
Thats the only context that matters relative to your ban.
Edit: wad/was. I wasn't talking about Doom, I promise.
Appearing to be is not the same as being. If you have evidence of being, share with the class.
What facts do you have to prove what you said? Do you have my bank transactions? Do you have any communication between me and the Russian government?
YDI
Clear violation of the rules regardless of whether they are a paid troll or not. It doesnt matter.
Use the report button next time.
Accusing a user of being a paid troll account is against the rules in most instances, even if you somehow have strong evidence for it.
It's an unfalsifiable claim and is frequently used as a way to harass another user over a disagreement.
YDI.
It is enough to look at this user commenting history to substantiate the claim.
If you see a nazi, say "nazi"
If you see a Russian troll, say "Russian troll".
Like I said, its not about having evidence or not. It's a disingenuous way of harassing someone for having an opinion you disagree with.
If the opinion is a rule-breaking one, then report it. If it isn't, find a more constructive way to deal with your disagreement.
Too many people (myself included) learned to focus on the person, instead of the idea.
That leads to sophist arguments ("you're a troll"), rather than searching for the truth that lies somewhere between different viewpoints.
It's not easy to keep in mind and to find ways to stay on the subject.
very well said
not to mention if you look at the comment history and you see nazi or troll or such then just block.
No, if you see a nazi or troll call it out so that administration can remove it and keep the community healthy. Do not turn a blind eye to a fucking nazi bar.
Im sorry but im not that nice. I want to block him till the administration deals with his account and he makes an alt I have to then block.
Blocking someone is far more 'nicer' than directly and publicly shaming someone and calling them out for their bad behaviour.
no im mean nice to the community.
The issue is, you just broke rules too.
Next time.
Just report him or say something more civil. But honestly if you see a rule breaker just report him.
It's like kinda like real life you don't deal with criminals the justical system in this case mods and admins do.
Being a paid troll is one thing. If I see someone spreading pro fascist propaganda, I wouldn't call them paid, but I would absolutely call them out on promoting fascist propaganda
They might be a troll but how did you jump to the paid part?
Brother, this isnt the sludge at the bottom of the internet, this is the hardened nastiness under the sludge. These people are the highschool drop outs that disappeared from everyday society. Their weight became so obese they couldn't face life and they started collecting "disability" because their weight/gluttony got so out of control.
That's interesting, because when I say "Nazi", you say "Russian troll". Maybe you have your favorite Nazis after all?
Looks like YDI. Badjacketing like that only breeds paranoia
YDI, you broke the rules. Not everyone you disagree with is paid.
Omg he got banned due to my report lol
For anyone who bothers to read this, @FelixCress@lemmy.world harrassed me for difference in opinion about geopolitical issues. He then proceeded to harass me by following me around and downvoting all my comments and replied to my comments which didn't involve him. He also used multiple accounts/community (which he admitted to) which then did the same.
I also reported his comments. But mainly since I was checking his profile as I recall agreeing with me on a few topics. Broken clock and what not.
How ignorant and close minded are you to post this...
You disagree with someone over an inherently subjective topic and then harrass them. So the mods ban you. Then you proceed to do the same to the mod by posting this.
No one is allowed to have a different opinion than you?
The fact you belive that one must be a troll to support russia is a great evidence everyone is better if you keep away from political discussion. You ate too much propaganda, maybe detox from capitalist press and learn a bit about history?
If you’re supporting Russia’s invasion of a sovereign country and all the war crimes that go along with it you’re as bad as someone who’s supporting Israel’s genocide of the Palestine people.
Damn you guys reach new levels of dumb every passing day
Which part of what I said is dumb?
The part where you side with imperialism in the case of ukraine and then against it in the case of palestine.
side with imperialism
Ohh i didn't know the definition of imperialism is getting invaded by another country.
Ohh remember when the time India become imperialist when British Empire colonized them? I sure do!
If you are able to read, id suggest lenins book in the subject
Ps: you guys reach new levels of dumb over the course of hours
Uh huh, i don't care about lentils book or your "huhu i'm smart yur dum" comment, i just wanna know what do you mean by being on the imperialist side, so do explain to us dum dum why siding with ukraine is imperialism since you're so smart.
Ukraine fights under NATO orders. Who pays, give the orders, provide military equipment and intel for Ukraine in this conflict? As burguerlanders use to say "follow the money"
Uh huh, so why are they provide support to Ukraine? And what is this conflict about?
Uh huh uh huh, so why would you say "plundering of Russia" when Russian force are the one that moving west? Who started the current conflict?
Who started the current conflict?
Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, 2022.
Thank for being honest, the rest is politic.
I temporarily banned you for violating the rules of the community more then once
Please use this time to reflect, read, and pray for you have clearly lost your way
News communities are very important to the discussion of events which impact many people lives
When you make these sort of comments the quality of the post is degraded
In addition the rules are clear for all to read
I will pray for the malice which poisons your heart against the fellow man to leave your body and mind
Since you are here mod, make sure to check how he brigades others (or maybe his alt accounts) to downvote and comment on a single target. He has admitted that he posts my content to other communities for such behaviour (the comment has since been deleted by mods). I have some names but I don’t want to take names without proof.
You can contact the lemmy.world admins and use this tool https://lemmy.lvanrem.com/alt to find proof
There is a recent desant of Russian trolls attacking Ukraine
Attacking Ukraine with what, opinions on social media? People who disagree with you aren’t being paid by US adversaries. Russiagate was a hoax.
Oh fuck off with these lies. Imperialism defending ML chud.