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Does the ram comes with a torque key?
Who needs catalytic converters with all this RAM around?
Ok but how long is it going to be supported? If they abandon the idea its just a particularly expensive regular laptop, even if they keep supporting it you're locked into ThinkPads ecosystem. It's not truly repairable until its a standard that doesn't rely on the benevolence of a single company.
Perhaps do some homework. ThinkPad have dominated in business for decades for good reason
Think-pad? Pshh, a momentary gimmick.
(My very first laptop was a ThinkPad with 256mb of RAM, 100 years ago. My current laptop is a ThinkPad with 32gb of ram)
Thinkpads had 3rd party replacement parts for the last 20 years.
Happy for them, I'm sure the 100 people that still can afford computers will appreciate it.
Thinkpads are usually acquired as enterprise retire their stock, 2 or 3 year old devices for a fraction of the new price.
Thinkpads are generally invredibly cheap due to scale. You can also refurbished last years model for under 400 usd.
Hey... people win the lotto all the time! So for brief moments throughout the day there's probably 101-107 people in the world who can still afford one!
They still don't seem anywhere near as rugged as the tanks that were the IBM thinkpads and Early Lenovo Thinkpads. Which is a shame. The OG thinkpads were some of the best built laptops there were. Still better than some of the other cheap crap that passes for a laptop these days, but still a shell of its former glory.
I have a lower end, but capable gaming laptop. R7, 1Tb Nvme, 32Gb, RTX.... It is easy to open, service, expandable, with space for a SATA 2.5, for example. Spill proof, lighted kbd, etc.
It's kind of built like an old school ThinkPad. A tank.
And that's why I'm getting rid of it.
The thing IS a tank.
I really use it as a laptop, I do onsite stuff, so I lug this thing around all day. Many use these as "transportable". I don't, I have a beefy workstation at home, so the laptop generally lives in its backpack.
So, for me, a professional grade, light but sturdy, and repairable machine is just what the doctor ordered.
If you need rugged, some gamer laptops are pretty tough and accessible, but you will pay the chunk tax.
If you REALLY want rugged, get a proper ruggedized laptop, and carry it around.
Nice to see this pop up as Apple announce their 5yr plan to flood the world's landfills & scrap yards with 8gb fused ram Neo's.
Hasn't Apple been soldering everything to the motherboard for ages now?
Oh yeah....for well over a decade. If you're REALLY lucky the proprietary form factor m.2 is user replaceable and not just sad bits soldered direct to the PCB. (Edit: I really really hate Autoassume, that's supposed to be "SSD bits"... I'll leave it as is because it's funny)
My wife has a 2017 MacBook Air, at some point in the last few years it stopped getting system and security updates. She didn't notice until she got a pop-up from Chrome saying that her OS is no longer supported. Completely ignored it until around October last year when some websites stopped working and gave an error indicating out of date certificates.
(There's a lot in those last 3 sentences that is wildly troubling to me.....)
Took me from October until mid-January to convince her to TRY Linux. So I went to buy her a new m.2....and paid an extra £20 on top of standard because of the proprietary form factor. Luckily I bought before the major price hikes....got a 256gb m(ac).2 for ~£90.
Would have just backed up her files and wiped the original drive but she wanted to be able to switch back to her exact installation if she didn't like Linux...and the new drive is double the capacity 👍
Good grief what a stupid future we live in.
And "sad bits" makes perfect sense.
I'm glad i switched to mint on my laptop, I hope it only continues to improve. If only we could self-manufacture the hardware, too...
At this point I'm so fucking fed up with the industry gatekeeping users, colluding against us, outright ABANDONING us because the fucking AI firms "bought all of our manufacturing output", I don't think I would even mind that much if I have to sacrifice a closet, or a whole room of my house, to contain the much bulkier homebrewed DIY electronics.
If 64 gigs of RAM a couple friends manufactured in their garage had to take up the space of a refrigerator -- not a mini-fridge, i mean a whole fucking full scale kitchen appliance, I WOULD RATHER MAKE ROOM THAN PAY THOSE FUCKING CORPO PARASITES EVER AGAIN.
I mean....yeah....I guess I could live with homebrew tech on a scale of 64gb of ram being the size of a full fridge.....but where the fuck do I put it?! Between the my wife and I there's barely enough space for us and just our stuff in the house we own....😒🖕 Fucking Big Corpo Tech is in bed with Big Housing to conspire against the space required for Big HomebrewTech to be a contender.....
*as usual
Yes, but if you are running Windows on them, do they still inject Chinese state-sponsored malware into Windows on every boot from UEFI/BIOS storage?
They were caught doing this on several occasions, to the point where Lenovo products are forbidden across significant swaths of the U.S. government and military.
Source?
One example of many.
You must be new to tech to not remember this. Wasn’t all that long ago.
Not even remotely the same thing OP is claiming. It's their own windows flavor version with auto start script. It's bad but not that bad.
Trust me bro ^*tm^
Err... were they? I remember vulnerabilities and a ban from SOME of the US gov agencies, but not clear if it was because of spying concerns or because they wanted a US supplier.
Lenovo not dropping the ball on their thinkpad reputation but improving it. Very impressive
One thing to highlight: T-series Lenovo laptops are mainstream business products shipped at a huge scale.
This is not a small-scale experimental product for the tinkerers. This may define the biggest laptop segment if it works out well. It might be the first time in a while that something like this hits such a huge market.
wtf are you talking about? this isn't "hitting the market", this is staple of the thinkpads for ever.
These particular models are about to be released, hitting the market. With all renown Lenovo got for good long-term support, this is their most repairable product as of yet.
this is their most repairable product as of yet.
thinkpads were always repairable, that and durability is their number one attribute. you present it as if it were somehow new thing.
Lenovo also owns the Motorola phone brand, and they're going to adopt/allow GrapheneOS. I think they know how to grab customers right now, and I honestly like it.
Just a lil nitpick: article is by iFixit who is a Lenovo business partner. So perhaps less objective than one might hope.
It seems to me that Lenovo’s repairably is more affected by that iFixit partnership than the opposite. I don’t see anything factually wrong or suspicious in the article.
It wouldn't be difficult to make Lenovo laptops more repairable. I've had two, and both required taking the whole thing apart to replace the keyboard, the part most likely to have problems. I hate that about them.
Conversely, I replaced the battery in a T740 last week for a client .
8 screws total, including keyboard, and battery (2, and not glued).
I wouldn't give this one a 10/10, but 7-8/10, probably.
Nice to work with, captive screws all around the shell, so no lost screws, no bullshit "screws under rubber feet" like HP loves to do....
Only gripe is that the usb c is not on a daughterboard. Or power and ports for that matter.
Traditionally, the business class T-series thinkpads were always easy to take apart and replace parts. All of the used lenovo thinkpads I've ever owned had marked screw holes on the bottom for the keyboard, which would let me slide it out without having to remove the case or anything.
The consumer Lenovos that weren't based on the older IBM thinkpad designs were more standard designs like you describe.