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[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 minutes ago

homeless people find sitting in the shade of trees to be comfortable, and the city whole point of urban design is to make them uncomfortable and to suffer

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 51 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why is this on the self hosting community

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 7 points 53 minutes ago

The water is hosting algae

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 45 minutes ago

It's not an either/or thing, the tank in the picture is literally sitting under a tree

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I think it’s probably cheaper in the long run to self host a tree instead, unless you live in an apartment with absolutely no green space. But I’d rather get a VPF and host a tree there if I had too

[–] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 2 points 57 minutes ago

Does this count too?

I already posted this on !balconygardening@slrpnk.net. .

I'm purposefully growing duckweed on my balcony.
I'm doing !hydroponics@slrpnk.net, and by doing that, I have lots of waste water with still good fertilizer in it.

Duckweed is one of the fastest growing, nutrient densest and least demanding plant out there, and you can just scoop it out with a strainer.

It's exponentially growing and if you don't wanna eat it, it makes great organic fertiliser or animal feed with lots of protein and micronutients!

Not liquid enough.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Elon musk going into the tree business I see.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Short answer: the bank won't give your shiny new tree-planting business a loan as easily as it will to a "liquid tank tree replacement" one.

Long answer:

  • Trees take time to grow
  • Trees need to be planted
  • Trees make shade
  • Animals like birds and insects like bees and mosquitos like to live next to them
  • Trees don't need electricity
  • Trees take in heat radiated from the pavement
  • Trees don't look cool

While algae are more efficient at turning CO2 into oxygen in theory, in practice algae don't have a good climate in such a tank (no oxygen without ventilation, i.e. constant electricity and they get cooked through the glass).

All in all, more of a gimmick than anything.

[–] exedore6@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 hour ago

Roots limit where they can grow without messing up infrastructure.

[–] urandom@lemmy.world 24 points 4 hours ago

Trees don’t look cool

You take that back!

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)
  • Trees take time to grow

Sure, of course not removing literally all of them in the first place is preferable but hindsight is 20/20 I guess. And good things come to those who wait.

  • Trees need to be planted

True, planting a tree seems a bit easier than installing a weird tank though, despite time to grow.

  • Trees make shade

Good.

  • Animals like birds and insects like bees and mosquitos like to live next to them

Good.

  • Trees don't need electricity

Good.

  • Trees take in heat radiated from the pavement

Good.

  • Trees don't look cool

Bullshit.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Aren't like half of those bullet points positives? Also in addition to what you said once you got a tree you got a tree, those tanks need constant maintenence and cycling which I doubt anyone is going to bother with for more than a year after installing them.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

The comment you replying to was trying to not so subtly point out this is a business plot and little else. Nobody is going to pay a subscription fee to have a tree in front of their business, but they might cough up money for a third party to maintain a tank of algae out front if it was sold right

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 56 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I had the same reaction until I read this.

TL;DR: it's 10-50x more efficient at cleaning the air and actually generates both electricity and fertiliser.

Yes, it would be better to just get rid of all the cars generating the pollution in the first place and putting in some more trees, but there are clear advantages to this.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 11 points 5 hours ago

I appreciate Rebecca Watson's opinion. Watched the 6min video, now convinced 👍

Also learned a new term: kneejerk cynicism

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 35 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
  1. Wrong community, maybe? Lol

  2. iirc, algae are better oxygen producers per units of mass and volume, so a tank full of algae might actually be better than a tree. One issue though is that trees can grow on open ground, while algae require a tank to be built, most likely negating the economic benefits. Also, trees are more aesthetically pleasing.

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[–] Elkot@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How's my dog supposed to piss on that

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 5 hours ago

I don't think your dog will see that as problematic.

[–] ChuckTheMonkey@fedia.io 207 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

Why is this in self hosted?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 9 points 5 hours ago

It has a USB port.

[–] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

in case you want to self-host your own algae, I guess

[–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

Can I combine this with my water-cooling setup?

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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think anything’s wrong with trees, but maybe we could also have some of these as well as trees ?

Replace the advertisements on bus stops with a really cool green liquid wall 😮 (but they’d have to make the glass super thick, these things tend to be vandalized from time to time)

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I don’t think anything’s wrong with trees, but maybe we could also have some of these as well as trees ?

First of all nobody is proposing to replace existing trees with that, that would be silly! AFAIU the people who created this also don't want these to be used where trees could be planted. They are outspokenly designed for already densely packed cities that are already highly polluted and hostile to trees, to start turning things around. Rebecca Watson's 6min take

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 76 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I like how everyone is acting like it is normal to have this in self hosted

[–] superkret@feddit.org 20 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I love this about lemmy.
Like someone stumbling into the wrong house and still being welcomed.
It's a lot more informal and relaxed than on the piss page of the Internet.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 8 hours ago

Practical answer, fits in places trees may not. Pessimistic answer, fits in some guys cyberpunk ass vision for what he wants his office block to look like.

[–] iceonfire1@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (8 children)
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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Trees grow and rip up the pavement around them. I do love the canopy though

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 58 minutes ago

Line the plater with steel, and this is not a problem. Bonus: trees are dwarfs and don't present risks of falling on structures in storms.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 10 hours ago (19 children)

Because there's no serious answers being given even though there are at least 2:

  • trees have roots, roots ruin any nearby human infrastructure. You'll note this says "in urban environments" and that there are trees nearby, so this is probably the big reason
  • trees need maintenance, which costs money. this is a stupid reason imo, but it's one nonetheless
  • algae is cool, ok?
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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Very cyberpunk

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