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[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 41 points 5 days ago

Remember:

There's no such thing as a perpetual license, there's only "until we change our mind" licenses

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 41 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The not owning anything is ridiculous. We need clear regulation that makes it so companies cant do bullcrap like this. If I buy something, I own it, period.

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

At this point, why would anyone do business with broadcom at all?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 5 days ago

Because they make all the cheap ethernet chips that go on motherboards.

Other than that, can't think of a good reason.

[–] Doctorzoidy@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 6 days ago (13 children)

I realize there's all sorts of Microsoft hate out there, mostly justified, but no one has mentioned hyper-v as a replacement for VMware. I've got a dozen or so machines running on a single VMware host and after the broadcom buyout decided to swap over, havent pulled the trigger yet as I'm using it to get a new server and wait for our support contract to end.

In the small/medium business space is proxmox a better bet?

[–] thejag52@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago

From my experience running heavily Hyper-V over the last 15 years, don't be afraid of it, it's worth the look. Especially for a single node like you're talking, no reason not to in my opinion.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

I'd say that if you tend to like Microsoft products, then hyper v. If you tend to be annoyed by then but like Linux, then proxmox is great. It manages to be a good blend of approachable with a GUI but also having solid API and cli that didn't overly abstract things away from the underlying implementation

But if you aren't really a Linux person, then I'd wager hyper v is the right direction.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Proxmox is definitely on its way to become a viable replacement for sure. There's also OpenShift from Red Hat which could be worth a look at as well.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Openshift kind of incidentally does virtualization almost begrudgingly. Red hat started to try to be a VMware competitor with ovirt but find VMware customers too stuck in their ways, then abandoned it to chase the cloud buzz word with open stack, but open stack was never that good and also the market for people who want to make their on premise stuff act like a cloud provider is actually not that big anyway. So they hopped on the container buzzword with open shift and stuck libvirt management in there to have an excuse for virtualization customers that there is a migration path for them.

Meanwhile proxmox scratched their head wondering why everyone was fixated on stacking abstraction layer upon abstraction layer on libvirt and just directly managed the qemu. Which frankly makes their stuff a lot more straightforward technically, and their implementation is a solid realization of the sort of experience that VMware provides. In fact much more straightforward than a typical VMware deployment, and easier to care and feed since it is natively Linux instead of an OS pretending not to be an os like esxi. It also is consistent to manage, unlike VMware where you must at least interact some with esxi but that's deliberately crippled and then you have to do things a bit differently as you deploy center (which can be weirdly convoluted).

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 5 days ago

Hyper-V could literally suck my dick all day and I still wouldn't use it if there's a non-microsoft option that works. Not interested in being the test group for any more of their shit or get rug-pulled at the worst moment.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Another vote for Hyper-V.

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This is why KVM is a good option, or even Hyper-V for Windows hosts. The only problem with KVM Is graphical support for paravirtualized drivers is basic at best with no full 3D acceleration that I know of for Windows guests; virtio-win isn't exactly the best option graphically and QXL to my knowledge is even more lacking, but one can just pass a hardware GPU through over vfio-pci for that.

Unfortunately for Mac hosts, Apple has no KVM/Hyper-V equivalent so your best option for virtualization there is Parallels.

(and it's honestly kinda stupid that Apple can't build their own KVM equivalent into the Darwin kernel which macOS is based on)

[–] rpa@europe.pub 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There is a KVM equivalent on MacOS, Apple's Hypervisor virtualization framework.

KVM is just the kernel side, you need QEMU (for example) on userland. On MacOS you have now UTM.

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[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Proxmox is the way to go in businesses right now to replace Vmware

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And virt-manager is pretty solid for hobbyist tinkering too.

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[–] nobleshift@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

NUTANIX AHV BITCHES! Download The Nutanix Bible and start learning it.

[–] scarilog@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Very surprised that this is the only comment in this thread mentioning Nutanix.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I stupidly bought a VMWare Workstation license when I first got on the Windows 11 train. Bright eyed and bushy tailed and all that rubbish. My experience was such shit that I abandoned it all for Linux and Virtualbox.

Fuck Microsoft, fuck VMWare.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 7 points 6 days ago
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