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[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 35 minutes ago

I'm on GrapheneOS on tablet and phone running mostly/exclusively open source, so not affected.

[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

september i get my jolla phone :))

[–] BuzzT@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 17 points 4 hours ago

I hope they push this out and spark the ire of the EU, who tells them to unfuck it or starts funding an alternative like Ubuntu Phones or something. That would be an amazing outcome.

Unfortunately, things have to get worse before they get better. It's how people learn.

[–] cristian64@reddthat.com 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Is this update going to affect older Android versions in phones that stopped receiving OS updates years ago?

And, if so, how do I disable all OS updates entirely?

[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Depends on your version, search for "update" in the settings area.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 11 points 5 hours ago

Until people fork and forget Google, they will always control Android.

[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 38 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a nice list I'd consider for new phones.

  • Murena (France) with /e/OS (France) on:
    • Fairphone (Netherlands)
    • Hiroh (USA)
    • SHIFTphone (Germany)
    • Teracube (USA)
  • Punkt MC03 (Switzerland)
  • Volla (Germany) with Volla OS or Ubuntu Touch (Germany)
  • Jolla (Finland) with Sailfish OS (Finland)
  • Purism Librem (USA, manufactured in the USA)
[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 43 minutes ago

i got a fairphone from murena with /e/OS preinstalled recently. i love it so far, but theres a weird glitch where it will randomly switch timezones and only goes back when i restart it and some apps are a little broken.

the issues are relatively minor and its nice to have a phone i know i can plan to keep for a really long time. also the camera is so much better than my old phone. some people said its mid compared to other new phones but if i wanted a camera that nice id buy a real camera.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 128 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Whenever a malicious app breaks or scammers get to you, its always through the google play store. Their shit isnt even safe to make this fucken claim about safety.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Right but its official, so its safe. That's what matters. Not whether it has malware or not.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 8 hours ago

But most importantly, some rich asshole will make some money this quarter and that’s all that matters

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 38 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

So, do I finally need to learn about GrapheneOS? What are other people doing?

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

Graphene is by far the best. I highly recommend it.

Right now you need a Pixel to run it but soon you can get a Motorola that works with it.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Graphene is only of help (today) if you buy some shit from Google namely a Pixel. If you have another phone, step numero uno is always to learn what custom ROMs are available for your make and model.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 34 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Used Pixels are cheap and the money doesn't go to Google again.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It supports Google by making their reseller market strong. People will buy pixels knowing they will be of value on the reseller market thus strengthening the primary market.

That's the problem with buying a used Pixel.

[–] rangber@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

On theory, yeah. I got a 512gb pixel 9 fold with a dead inner screen, the rest works fine, for $200. It's a good deal.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

And what are we supposed to do about it?

I made a goddamn prediction back in 2012 when Google was introducing the Nexus line of handsets. I FUCKING KNEW this "open platform" bullshit had it's days numbered.

These companies are fun when they're young, but they will ALWAYS turn on the consumer.

Adam Smith was right. Without ethics and morals, the system WILL crumble.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 8 hours ago

We have extremely moral billionaires preaching their theology in silicon valley, so it should all be fixed pretty soon.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 38 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This is why I'm happy about Motorola next year

With some luck I'll have time to put together my diy palmtop-esque machine, but we'll see if that works out.

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago

For anyone who hasn't heard, Motorola is partnering with GrapheneOS to release compatible phones in 2027.

[–] Yakfolk@anarchist.nexus 33 points 10 hours ago (9 children)

I really hope the Motorola thing actually pans out. Based on the general state of things I’m done with both Apple and Google.

[–] TheOtherwise@hexbear.net 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What is the Motorola thinf being referred to here?

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The GrapheneOS folks are working with Motorola to have Graphene pre-installed on one of their phones. It would be the first time it is officially usable on anything but a Pixel. It won't solve the problem described in the OP though. It's still Android.

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

Afaik GrapheneOS won't be affected, neither will e/OS. The real problem with them still being based as AOSP is, that google might stop the AOSP project. That would mean the forks would need to do that continous based development themselves.

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[–] Jayb151@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What's going to happen to phones that already have 3rd party apps installed?

[–] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 24 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It'd be a stunningly idiotic move if they let you keep the ones already installed, but not let you update them - allowing security holes fixed by future versions to persist so you're wide open to exactly what they claim they're trying to prevent. More likely they'll use them as marketing for how "safe" Google is making you by repeatedly pointing out one at a time how they're blocking app "x" now that a security hole has been found on it.

[–] barneyrubble@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

So what is the next fork here? I've been handcuffed to android/Google (phones/ tablets) for decades. I have a couple of iPads but they don't have cellular and don't fit in your pocket.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Graphene OS

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[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 12 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

The only reason I have an android is that the laundry app I'm forced to use runs through it. It's literally only still surviving because capitalism contrived a way to tie it to my basic needs.

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 18 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

It's exactly as stupid as it sounds. Landlord decided we need to pay through an app. My budget overrules my principles, and the local laundry mats are at least five times the price, so... Yeah.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

We should've shattered Apple in 2008.

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