this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2025
166 points (85.5% liked)

World News

46090 readers
2960 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That would be shocking if true. The US takes its naval defences very seriously

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

During some war games a few years ago, the Dutch Navy managed to score a hit against a US Navy carrier using a diesel sub.

Like someone else said here, carriers are big, slow targets, it's not impossible for something to sneak past and sink them.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was impressive but it happened in 1999. The Dutch Captain said that he doubted he could do it again and indeed a different Dutch Submarine failed at it the next year.

Carriers are considerable faster (30 Knots) than Diesel Subs (20 Knots) too, something the Dutch Captain touches on in that article.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Well in my mind few years ago was 1999...

Seriously though I thought this only happened within the last 10 years, TIL.

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Diesel subs are also different kinds of beasts. They're terrible for international conflict, but for short range operations, they're silent. You can turn off a diesel engine, but not a nuclear reactor.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has anyone tried making a reactor that can be turned off? Seems like an easy upgrade to make them silent in the short term.

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I'd imagine it's not doable because of how quickly they'd develop insane amounts of heat.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not in anyway an expert on matters naval, but diesel subs are pretty quiet running on electric motors. Nuclear reactors make more noise.

Feel free to correct me.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

Point is, they're big, impossible to hide from anyone that has satellites, and you just need to get a lucky hit with a relatively cheap missile/torpedo to give the other side a multi-billion dollar loss in one go.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Carriers are actually some of the fastest ships out there because of nuclear propulsion.

[–] Magister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

against hypersonic missile (speed mach 5 to mach 25), good luck to spot it and try to destroy it before it reaches you

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Most claimed "hypersonic" missiles can't actually manoeuvre at those speeds so you can spot them at distance and work out where you need to send an interceptor missile. We saw this with Patriot batteries vs Kinzhal in Ukraine.

[–] derGottesknecht@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Should be pretty easy to spot, those nose cones will be glowing in the atmosphere like rudolfs nose