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culinary nationalism is a drug. its also nonsense too. most of these were poor people's food. they had variants - not only regionally, the way the culinary nationalism approves of - but also from household to household. a living culture tends to be proud of the idea that every grandma has their own way of making dumplings, the whole 'you're doing it wrong' being more of a regional ribbing than an accusation of sacrilege.
My grandma being from india and her curry
except its entirely her own inventions including her chapatis which are the best ive ever had and nothing comes close.
my grandma would routinely take her own cooking book, open it, read the recipe carefully and then do something entirely fucking random and say 'if this works i hope i remember to write it down'.
and yet at the same time she was also intransigent with some things. 'this is the best method to peel eggs wow you didn't listen to me time to kill myself', for an example. i think culinary nationalism takes that sort of affectation, which on some level is communicated on a personal level, and tries to make a dogma out of it. it is like taking folk religion and turning it into a scriptural dogma.
This is how I cook lmao. Just look at some recipes for the general idea then do whatever I feel like instead. It generally works: cooking is easy as long as you know your ingredients and balance the flavors.
Lmao I'm also absolutely stuck on certain methodologies that I've found to work better than anything else, although most of those are knife safety things where if someone does it wrong I get anxious because it's dangerous, to the point that I'll insist on taking the knife away from them and chopping or peeling something myself if they won't hold it right.
I know you hate to see me coming with my reasonably fast incredibly unorthodox knife cutting skills. You also can't touch me lest I will pretty sure stab myself
This right here. This is 90% of what matters.
ESPECIALLY for Italy, a country that's younger than the United States, and who's language is actually 20 languages in a trench coat.
For most of post-Roman history a Venician and a Scicilian would have had absolutely no reason to associate with one another, culturally.
I'd blame Giuseppe Garibaldi, but he was actually kinda based
If Italy hadn’t been blown up a bunch and its government totally reformed by the events of the world wars it would be even more of a collection of city states in a trench coat.
Come to Türkiye, we have the most reactionary people on the culinary nationalism. The idea of other neighboring nations having similar food to ours is enough to make an average Turkish seethe and mald.
I say to the turk all his food was invented in Greece and i say to the the greek all his food was invented in turkey
Fastest way to get yourself killed. We also have a "disagreement" with Armenians about some dolma varieties.
Yeah. Getting murder any%
Implying any Balkan country stuff is from another Balkan country is a certain way to die. It doesn't matter if the 99.9% of everything is same, it's your fault for not getting the small nuances.
Bulgaria invented phones
My favourite in the wider south east Europe region is that everyone has their own variant of a Turkish/bosnian/greek etc coffee but if you call it a coffee they are really not happy. I got my ass chewed by an old Serb for asking for a Turkish coffee once.
Skill issue
I think culinary nationalism is universal to nationalism itself. It's just that Europe's identities are built on the basis of exclusion of neighboring countries, whereas nationalism in, say, Brazil or the United States is built on racial segregation in different forms. What differs from country to country are particularities like these.
With Turkey you have the fact of the post ottoman world being built on balkans scrambling to not identify with Turks, 'the East' and various elements of their traditional cultures while appropriating common pan west asian stuff - which includes cuisine. On top of that you have things like Sweden claiming to have invented 'meatballs with spices from the east actually' because, you know, something popular and so closely aligned with swedish identity can't possibly be 'non european', 'non swedish' or, worse, 'non white'.
With Italy I think what makes them particularly annoying is that Italian cuisine is easy to reproduce. That's kind of the point. Unlike with, say, French cuisine, what adds flair to dishes in Italy are ultra specific regional ingredients. Not culinary methods. To add insult to injury the most influencial italic country in the world is not Italy. It's New York City.
So you take all the contradictions of culinary nationalism and add the fact that italian culture flows not from Rome, but from the United States. Kinda like how the Renaissance came from Asia. The classical italian city states like Venice, Florence, Genoa all did social engineering and reinvented their cultures from the ground up using writings that only Greeks and Arabs had cared about for centuries at that point. But this time the 'source of culture' is the United States, the empire which rules Europe - not the 'Roman Empire' of a wall with a town annex in the dardanelles.
dang this is too accurate