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I dont care that your not even 100 year old recipes of wheat cheese and tomato are being ruined your food is the basis for microwave meals and uni student food gtfo your high horse. Oh and italian cars are a joke

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[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 4 points 6 hours ago

This thread is full of Americans pretending like their stereotypes of other nationalities are real and then also yanks being mad that they're getting stereotyped as the "hotdog and french fry" place

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

this would be a lot more compelling if the food in italy weren't among the best in the world

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

italian motorcycles like ducati look beautiful until you have to work on the wiring

edit: also search for "lamborghini weld"

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 1 points 3 hours ago

that looks too nice and contiguous to be a ferrari weld

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] cornishon@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Why is this on badposting when it's a goodpost?

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

Badposting is my temple

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

i did learn how to make my pasta better after listening to Italians. i think we yankees all learned to dump the sauce on top from the same prego commercial

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

listening to italians

MODS! MODS! BAN THIS PERSON

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 5 points 13 hours ago

oh gosh oh geez ive been made peppino-run

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 34 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

Sometimes, sometimes I snap the spaghetti in half before cooking it just to make an Italian cry.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago

Why not just get a shorter type of pasta from the start?

[–] Johnny_Arson@hexbear.net 21 points 15 hours ago

For anyone not getting the amazing layers of this gif in the context of the comment. The actor playing the "crying Indian" in the old green washing ad campaign this is clipped from was actually Italian.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 5 points 12 hours ago

so what? you're just supposed to have one side be cooked a whole minute longer than the other? have a 10% margin of error on your cook time??

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 11 points 15 hours ago

But then you can't do one long continuous slurp bordiga-despair

[–] huf@hexbear.net 19 points 17 hours ago

who the hell invented caring about that, lol.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The worst part is when they get an emotional attachment to the particular way their great-grandma made it, even if it’s blatantly culinarily wrong. Like, my wife’s uncle married this Italian woman, and her mom got on my MIL’s case for using sautéed onions in her tomato sauce. Yes, she thought one of the most fundamental culinarily bases was wrong because that’s the way her lowlife Sicilian family did it.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I need you to, at least roughly, write down this fucked up recipe for me

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Reject gastro-nationalism

Embrace Alberto Grandi thought

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 45 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (8 children)

culinary nationalism is a drug. its also nonsense too. most of these were poor people's food. they had variants - not only regionally, the way the culinary nationalism approves of - but also from household to household. a living culture tends to be proud of the idea that every grandma has their own way of making dumplings, the whole 'you're doing it wrong' being more of a regional ribbing than an accusation of sacrilege.

[–] KoloradoKoolAid75@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Come to Türkiye, we have the most reactionary people on the culinary nationalism. The idea of other neighboring nations having similar food to ours is enough to make an average Turkish seethe and mald.

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I say to the turk all his food was invented in Greece and i say to the the greek all his food was invented in turkey

[–] KoloradoKoolAid75@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Fastest way to get yourself killed. We also have a "disagreement" with Armenians about some dolma varieties.

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Fastest way to get yourself killed

Yeah. Getting murder any%

[–] KoloradoKoolAid75@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Implying any Balkan country stuff is from another Balkan country is a certain way to die. It doesn't matter if the 99.9% of everything is same, it's your fault for not getting the small nuances.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago

My favourite in the wider south east Europe region is that everyone has their own variant of a Turkish/bosnian/greek etc coffee but if you call it a coffee they are really not happy. I got my ass chewed by an old Serb for asking for a Turkish coffee once.

[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 3 points 10 hours ago

Bulgaria invented phones

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I think culinary nationalism is universal to nationalism itself. It's just that Europe's identities are built on the basis of exclusion of neighboring countries, whereas nationalism in, say, Brazil or the United States is built on racial segregation in different forms. What differs from country to country are particularities like these.

With Turkey you have the fact of the post ottoman world being built on balkans scrambling to not identify with Turks, 'the East' and various elements of their traditional cultures while appropriating common pan west asian stuff - which includes cuisine. On top of that you have things like Sweden claiming to have invented 'meatballs with spices from the east actually' because, you know, something popular and so closely aligned with swedish identity can't possibly be 'non european', 'non swedish' or, worse, 'non white'.

With Italy I think what makes them particularly annoying is that Italian cuisine is easy to reproduce. That's kind of the point. Unlike with, say, French cuisine, what adds flair to dishes in Italy are ultra specific regional ingredients. Not culinary methods. To add insult to injury the most influencial italic country in the world is not Italy. It's New York City.

So you take all the contradictions of culinary nationalism and add the fact that italian culture flows not from Rome, but from the United States. Kinda like how the Renaissance came from Asia. The classical italian city states like Venice, Florence, Genoa all did social engineering and reinvented their cultures from the ground up using writings that only Greeks and Arabs had cared about for centuries at that point. But this time the 'source of culture' is the United States, the empire which rules Europe - not the 'Roman Empire' of a wall with a town annex in the dardanelles.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

culinary nationalism is a drug. its also nonsense too.

ESPECIALLY for Italy, a country that's younger than the United States, and who's language is actually 20 languages in a trench coat.

For most of post-Roman history a Venician and a Scicilian would have had absolutely no reason to associate with one another, culturally.

I'd blame Giuseppe Garibaldi, but he was actually kinda based

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[–] 420lenin69@hexbear.net 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pasta is Chinese. Raviolis are dumplings. Tomato is American.

Oh you invented putting cheese on bread, did you?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Oh you invented putting cheese on bread, did you?

Jumping off of this: The foodsphere, even removed from the italians, knows a lot of "nooo that's not correct". The only thing as annoying as the italians though are the people who think the Earl of Sandwich invented that. It's putting literally a thing in bread, people have been doing it since we have bread

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

Okay but traditional closed sandwich made from separate pieces of bread actually do appear pretty late. Wraps are old as dirt, trenchers are from the middle age but you guys also get mad when I call an open faced sandwich a sandwich so trenchers are obviously not it, and dipping bread in stews and soups is related to sandwiches but if my potato on rye isn't a sandwich then this sure isn't.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'm a fan of americans that are cheese sandwich purists, and if you put any ingredient besides cheese in there it becomes a "melt" not a "cheese sandwich". this was a big deal on reddit in 2019 i think

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 7 points 13 hours ago

omg one of my most favorite reddit rants of all time!

You People Make Me Sick

A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire subreddit consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. The fact that this subreddit is called "grilledcheese" is nothing short of utter blasphemy.

Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese.

I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 21 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. But if you want to add some pulled pork and take a picture of it, make your own subreddit entitled "melts" because that is not a fucking grilled cheese.

I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being.

Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this account for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over reddit and it's been driving me insane. The moment I saw this subreddit this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own subreddit just because I know this one exists now.

You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

you can one-up these people by pointing out a grilled cheese is just a type of panini that also includes melts

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 6 points 14 hours ago

AyyyyyOC Un panino Americano per favore.

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