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Live torrents for some old movies and pretty hard to find. I thought about somehow extracting .m3u8 but that didn't worked out. Those sits are getting better at hiding real stream URL. Any way to easy do it or something?

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Usenet! Always usenet, for everything.

[–] Uri@infosec.pub 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Mind explaining usenet a bit

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

It's a different layer of the internet. It's really old, they used to post news there, now they post everything. You only download, do not upload, pay for privacy, have super high speeds, everything you see is down loadable as it's on servers and not from seeders.

Pay for a provider, the best one is Eweka. They have the servers, whatever you search you need to download from them (they have all the packages). Eweka has the longest retention, meaning the files are on their servers the longest (longer than 3000+ days I think). Get a download client, the best one imo is Sabnzbd Find indexers like Drunkenslug. And there are search engines and communities, and search applications like spotnet and spotlite. There are many communities out there, some are focused on media from a certain country for example, like only German spoken or subtitled content. Everything you download has been uploaded by someone, so it's very much community driven but you're not dependant on people their upload speed or online status.

Here's a beginners guide.

It also works flawlessly with Sonarr and Radarr to automatically download movies and series as soon as they come out in the quality and language you prefer. Just search for guides to set it up. It also works with torrents, but not as good as with usenet.

[–] scumola@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Usenet, WaybackMachine or DDL on some random website.

Keep in mind that youtube-dlp can do prety good work on other pages. Take a look on the supported sites they have.

[–] Uri@infosec.pub 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

You need an indexer (like a tracker)
You need a provider (somewhat like cross between a seed, tracker and an ISP)
And a usenet client like SABNZBD.

How and what to choose is difficult.
With the upcoming black friday there will be very good deals available.

Honestly: Best case: Look on the r/Usenet reddit and read through the wiki. Or find a similar guide elsewhere.

Be the change you want to see in the world. Find a physical copy, rip it, upload it.

[–] bykdd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Open directory search. https://www.eyedex.org/ https://odcrawler.xyz/ old movie +(mkv|mp4|avi|mov|mpg|wmv|3gp) -inurl:(jsp|pl|php|html|aspx|htm|cf|shtml) intitle:index.of -inurl:(listen77|mp3raid|mp3toss|mp3drug|index_of|wallywashis

[–] SpacemanSpiff@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What is eyedex? Never heard of this before

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

A plattform creating a search for you ready to paste into google search for dorking.

[–] CadMunt@aussie.zone 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] freedom@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And resold it aftarrrrr

[–] Steve@communick.news 36 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Look into joining private trackers.
It's a whole thing. A commitment. Real hurdles. But once done, I've never looked back.

[–] Azzu@leminal.space 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (31 children)

I've determined it's basically impossible to do that if you don't own a dedicated high-bandwidth seedbox. That costs a bunch of money, at which point you may just pay for another service (usenet) that has the stuff you want.

You have to maintain a certain ratio in all of them, but even though I've literally seeded everything I downloaded all the time, barely anyone ever connected to me, because their download need was already filled. Torrent clients prefer seeds with higher upload speeds. Thus I stayed at 0.0X ratio the whole time. Even when some of the files were designated as "free leech", so you can download and seed them to get your ratio up, that simply didn't work either.

Combine that with what you said with how hard it is to join them, they're just not worth it.

The whole concept is pretty stupid because of that. If there was a private tracker that simply looked at availability instead of ratio, sure. It's so weird to me how you would keep requiring ratio if all files are well-seeded.

Edit: the "dedicated" part was exaggerated, yes. However, "high bandwidth" means different things in different areas. Many areas in the world still have shitty 5 Mbit internet. Just because you personally are in the "lucky area" where you can do high-bandwidth seeding from home, does not mean other people do. If you can get much more than that at home, you're already in the "high bandwidth" group.

[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago

In most private trackers, you get bonus points for availability that you can use to maintain your ratio.

[–] SpacemanSpiff@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know why you're getting pushback on this, what you're saying is 100% correct. I spent around a decade just using Usenet and not bothering with torrents. Then I got into one highly sought after private tracker. I spent several months not downloading a thing except freeleech to create a buffer, which was going absolutely nowhere. Then recently I decided to test out this seedbox thing I'd heard so much about. I set it up to automatically download freeleech torrents the second they're posted. Even with that setup I discovered that I still can't get a 1:1 ratio. A bot that downloads the freeleech torrent the instant it's posted still only achieves a 0.5 ratio. It's madness. Within 20 minutes of being posted, the torrent will have 150 seedbox users seeding it and no one else will be able to upload a single byte.

Before this I was manually downloading freeleech torrents that I found interesting, and was literally getting a 0 ratio by doing that. Now I know why. This system encourages everyone to buy seedboxes, which then makes it impossible for regular Joe shmoes to use private trackers, unless they signed up back in 2013 or something

[–] Azzu@leminal.space 1 points 18 hours ago

Different people have different experiences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I guess most of the pushback is from people that through some privilege or luck either got into a "good" private tracker or have just been there from very early on. For those, they probably work very well.

But because of the massive hurdles for new users and the elitism inside it, it's a terrible idea to suggest then to anyone new.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are private trackers where you can earn a currency based on seeding uptime, not actual upload. Then you can spend the currency to get more download buffer. Farm the currency by just downloading and seeding a bunch of freeleech stuff.

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[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I've determined it's basically impossible to do that if you don't own a dedicated high-bandwidth seedbox

Completely untrue. I don't have a seedbox, never had one, and I keep perfectly fine ratios on two different private trackers. One has a ratio of 56 I think, the other (the one I use the most) has a ratio of 4.5, both just have a minimum requirement ratio of 0.5 i think before you're kicked.

I just have a computer on my home network, which is also the media server.

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

I've been in numerous private trackers and all of them offer bonus points from seeding that you can use to 'buy' ratio if people aren't downloading from you. You might also ensure that you have port forwarding setup if nobody is ever connecting to you because even though I rarely ever get a lot of seed ratio, I usually get something on most files and this is all through my home internet connection.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

I've been on a few different private trackers since the early 2010s and I had 1-5mbps upload for like a decade and I've never had any issues with ratio on any of them

[–] exu@feditown.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Massively depends on the private tracker. Some have a hard economy where you must seed every byte, but there are plenty of trackers that have bonus points based on seed time and torrent size which you can exchange for download allowances.

Some easy to get in trackers are torrentleech and seedpool, AFAIK both of them have open signups occasionally.

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[–] MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

emule. For hard to find, it's the best, imho.

[–] SpacemanSpiff@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Wow what a flashback. I was using that about 15 years ago at university

[–] StrawberryPigtails@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Between torrents, Usenet and the Internet Archive, most western media is findable. And for the really oddball stuff, try looking for a dvd and ripping it.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Public libraries can be a good source.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

The really niche stuff is usually easy to find if you know where and how to look.
Sometimes hiding in plain sight (like the name in kanji/romaji with weird letters like ō vs oe/ou).

Rarely had the issue of not finding something but tbf, my taste is very vanilla and not particularly niche.

[–] SpacemanSpiff@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I did exactly this. Generally find everything on Usenet, but I've bought several DVDs of things I couldn't find. Most recently some really niche Frank Lloyd Wright documentaries 😆

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[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (7 children)

On private trackers you can make a request for missing content.

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[–] shrek_is_love@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What went wrong with the .m3u8 file? I've had lots of success ripping from websites using yt-dlp. For sites it doesn't have explicit support for, it can fail if it can't find the stream URL.

In those cases, I open the Network tab of Firefox's developer tools and try to find something that looks like a stream URL, and then copy it out of there and give it to yt-dlp. (Don't forget to surround the URL in double quotes if the URL contains an &)

If you provide the URL you're trying to download from, I can try to take a look.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have been surprised as to how many old movies or media in general exists on the Internet Archive, also Daily Motion is a good source for older TV shows

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