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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

AI isnt AI

LLMs are overhyped

This is all a coordinated effort to keep people in fear and distraction while they prop up the stock market with AI hype to make Trump look better than he is. Its all lies and marketing.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Always will be until saturation occurs. If we can keep fighting off data centers, that might be a while down the road

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This sounds like the VC money is running out and the subsidies will soon end.

Don’t you worry, the AI companies already gobbled up the entire Internets worth of data, every conversation they could find on their social media networks to train their machine.

And just like Uber, you’ll now have to pay a premium to use their service when it finally works. Don’t worry they’ll still give you the stupid auto complete chat bot and tell you that’s the real AI, The real AI works for the corporate captured government and is figuring out how to get rid of you. Their goal is not enlightenment of the human race, It’s depopulation and control.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

I've been waiting for this to happen. People don't generally understand datacenters. You have to bring in an unending stream of bare metal in one side to keep them updated and they're using the fastest, most expensive hardware available, and it's so cutting edge, it's obsolete a couple years after they install it. There is no way those measly $200 claude accounts are paying for themselves without VC.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Just a few more interest rates bro

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

At some point they will have to monetize and that's going to be a bad day for everyone.

Imagine having halved your workforce, suddenly you have to pay for compute at what it actually costs.

If they don't find a new thing to sell to their shareholders they will have to monetize.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 hours ago

And good luck rebuilding all the institutional knowledge that you threw away by firing half your staff, while your former employees are getting rounded up into homeless work camps...

[–] Michal@programming.dev 4 points 9 hours ago

Well, the key word is "right now". AI companies are gambling that their runway is long enough to reach monetization.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 hours ago
[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago

I built my little empire out of some crazy garbage called the blood of the exploited working class.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 74 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I'm just going to note how giga-fucked it is that AI is openly being criticized because it hasn't led to more layoffs.

[–] viov@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Speaking of layoffs:

To everyone here I am in need of work and on side working on some personal open-source projects. If I'm going to be unhoused I might as well enjoy it:

  • Endless Runner Mobile Game like Temple Run but with ninjas and fighting enemies like mechs, assassin fish robots, etc along the way. Going for a retro type aesthetic. Undecided on what kind

  • A Dark Cartoon Action Rogue-like Shoot Em Up (Think Mouse: P.I. For Hire mixed with Vampire Survivors) where you are trying to survive against endless hordes of enemies and collaborating with or fighting against other players depending on the gamemode (Maybe both at same time for one gamemode)(To see how to implement local co-op too) https://youtu.be/9nrmJSgqYTI https://youtu.be/iIlkIA6lxl0

  • A Conker-like spiritual sucessor game with a brand new open source mascot at the helm (Will see how to have other open source mascots part of the story in some way too in a tasteful way) https://youtu.be/bTsNc_Bh17Y https://youtu.be/eorXCzJlpJ8

  • A Walking-Bike (I have ambitions for bigger vehicle projects with others in future. Walking Bike-Cars, etc) https://youtube.com/shorts/pspKOt-0XUg

  • A Short Animation series about Mini-Kaijus and their adventures about going around (destroying) the world

I'm a newbie for most of this but doing to learn and revise/overhaul as I go and learn more to eventually make these better and build up teams to work on these too (Make a couple game studios one by one eventually as well)

Have more experience with programming but nothing publicly showable yet sadly since I don't have much confidence/self-esteem in myself and well I have never shown my work before. I'm proud of them and how they play/run. I'm sure people would like them but I don't know

My ultimate goal though is to make games, animations, and even vehicles that people enjoy using, have fun with to play, and are moddable, and with community creations so you can play/drive them however you want. Building up communities, studios, and more that live well, get paid well, and enjoy creating together

Thinking of making a Ko-Fi/Patreon but have no clue if anyone would even donate to see any of this be fully made and released.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 24 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Just want to point out the "more layoffs". We are still in the Uber-subsidized part of the relationship.

This is the honeymoon and it ain't off to a great start

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago

It's absolutely baffling how the gig-economy had been normalized.

I am a news junkie. Just this week they were talking to a business expert about youth unemployment (note it's bad everywhere but it's starting to get bad in 1st world now so we are caring finally) and his response was yeah it's bad but basically we have to get used to a future of hustling doing multiple gigs with no health benefits because that's where things are going.

Fucking government is bent over the barrel letting industry define the workers terms of engagement it's disgusting.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

We are still in the Uber-subsidized part of the relationship.

It's not comparable, the costs for Uber are fixed development costs which decrease per customer with more customers. AI is strictly more expensive the more users there are since the cost is per use. The financial outlook for the industry is very bad, it will probably never be profitable except maybe in some extremely niche situations.

[–] Glemek@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think they mean uber the company, I think they meant uber as in over or very.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

I think they mean the company since they're the most famous example of subsidising the product to gain market share and their name is invoked all the time in discussions of AI economics

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

AI is strictly more expensive the more users there are since the cost is per use.

Isn't most of the cost in the model training?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

The cost of inference has passed the cost of training quite a while ago and it's by far the majority of expenses

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

The companies need to at least seem to grow forever. See Facebook to meta VR stuff to AI. The business models could not grow forever that's the reason for this constant reinvention of themselves.

At some point AI and building these data centers will have to lead to quantum break , wow we have AGI or to monetization.

Who's going to pay the actual energy costs+ margin for all their tokens? Not me

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[–] sobchak@programming.dev 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It also can't do any job I know of. Weird framing. Though, I guess that's the snake oil they're trying to sell.

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago

If you have someone good enough shepherding it, you can get decent results quickly.

It doesn't turn less money into more output, it turns more money into less time. And, you know, steals from everyone and eats our resources. omnomnomnom

[–] DiarrheaSommelier@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It can't fully displace jobs because it's super unreliable and makes tons of errors all the time. But it can do some tasks well if you know how to handle it.

Still not worth anywhere near what it costs, either to the user, the CAPEX investment, society or the planet.

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Not to mention the risk we take by running them but being unable to control the things. Because, you know, we don't actually know how they work, since we didn't program them, to begin with.

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Hmmm. It’s kind of weird that my work pays for every employee for a pro plan at $200/month for 10k credits. I use about 20k credits because I use it for my side projects and work all the time. That only costs the consumer about $600 total (with the $200). I wonder what discount they give the company employees, but also it’s kinda crazy with “how much AI costs” and how much they’re eating to get us hooked. Our company is hooked right now. They’re hoping they can keep this up until people forget how to program and not prompt maybe?

But right now I’m using it as a tool that I’m learning and not replacing my normal flow.

It would be great to not be this expensive.

[–] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 107 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Just imagine where we would be 5-10-15 years from now, if all that AI money would have went into social and environmental projects.

[–] freshcow@lemmy.world 39 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That describes my entire life since adolescence... wondering what kind of society we could have had if we werent governed by sociopaths

[–] DiarrheaSommelier@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If all the resources we spent blowing shit up and killing innocent people had been put to good use instead, we would be in a Star Trek-esque post-scarcity society by now. Possibly on our way to being Kardashev type 1 society.

[–] northface@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Well, we still need to survive the war with the Klingons and Vulcans before we form the alliance and implement full-on space communism. But we already know we will, so it's basically just for show.

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[–] GMac@feddit.org 1 points 8 hours ago

In shadow of doubt that many companies have painted themselves into a corner and will find the ai revenue correction painful. That said, I'm surprised to hear its already more expensive than people without reference to maintenance debt costs. Makes me wonder if there isn't some good old fashioned malicious compliance at work too...

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Slop software houses are gonna PAY BIG for losing human talent.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

When that happens and it all crashes down, there will be plenty of experienced devs and sysadmins to fill the market gaps. Maybe as independent contractors/freelancers, but ideally as tech co-ops.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Just wait till executives realize they can't use AI as a scapegoat when they force a bad decision through the company. They'll have no one to take the fall.

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[–] Janx@piefed.social 74 points 1 day ago (8 children)

So... why the fuck are you going all-in on AI at the expense of literally everyone and everything else!?

[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Control, propaganda, surveillance, tools of war, etc and so forth.

the investors, anyway

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 30 points 21 hours ago

They're nvidia, they don't care if the shovels they're selling won't dig any gold

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 30 points 22 hours ago

Short term? Drive wages down with the threat of firing people and replacing them with AI. Long term? They're either delusional enough to believe AI will improve to the point where it actually is cheaper, or else they're willing to pay more for a workforce that can't organize and protest and that they don't have to worry about doing things like being a whistleblower for their latest amoral plan.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 39 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I'm hoping this insane future booked shortage causes the consumer electronics industry to crash due to lack of parts which in turn should cause the AI industry to crash when no one is buying new tech nor fat AI subscriptions.

It already has to be affecting small to medium businesses significantly when even laptop procurement has tripled in price and you're spending a ton of money for enterprise AI access.

[–] Comet79@lemmy.world 23 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

These companies want to own all the hardware so you are forced to rent a computer. To buy a PC that does nothing by itself and requires some remote hardware to function. Amazon is already preparing a "game streaming" service, for example.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Ahh, late to market in a flooded field with at least one law of physics preventing it from ever working acceptably. Good job, Jeff!

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck with that to them. Internet reliability is extremely crappy in the US, even on supposedly "tech hubs" in California the best you can do is unreliable Comcast or super slow DSL from AT&T.

[–] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't think any of them are terribly concerned with the quality of the service.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 25 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I think they’re hoping the result is that we can only afford cheap tablet devices that act as dumb terminals for their cloud services which we have to rent forever due to holding our data hostage so they can manufacture consent and prevent us from developing open solutions to their walled garden proprietary products.

A precarious moment at the edge of a cliff.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Wow!

Really?!

No way!!!

Its almost like anyone who could do grade school math could have pointed that out 2, 3, 4 years ago!

I wonder if anyone did...

Anyway, uh, chain all these fucking morons into each other, SAW style, tell em they all have to work together and mutually suffer to escape the trap.

That's not murder, it's comedy.

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