culinary nationalism is a drug. its also nonsense too. most of these were poor people's food. they had variants - not only regionally, the way the culinary nationalism approves of - but also from household to household. a living culture tends to be proud of the idea that every grandma has their own way of making dumplings, the whole 'you're doing it wrong' being more of a regional ribbing than an accusation of sacrilege.
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My grandma being from india and her curry
except its entirely her own inventions including her chapatis which are the best ive ever had and nothing comes close.
my grandma would routinely take her own cooking book, open it, read the recipe carefully and then do something entirely fucking random and say 'if this works i hope i remember to write it down'.
and yet at the same time she was also intransigent with some things. 'this is the best method to peel eggs wow you didn't listen to me time to kill myself', for an example. i think culinary nationalism takes that sort of affectation, which on some level is communicated on a personal level, and tries to make a dogma out of it. it is like taking folk religion and turning it into a scriptural dogma.
my grandma would routinely take her own cooking book, open it, read the recipe carefully and then do something entirely fucking random and say 'if this works i hope i remember to write it down'.
This is how I cook lmao. Just look at some recipes for the general idea then do whatever I feel like instead. It generally works: cooking is easy as long as you know your ingredients and balance the flavors.
and yet at the same time she was also intransigent with some things. 'this is the best method to peel eggs wow you didn't listen to me time to kill myself', for an example.
Lmao I'm also absolutely stuck on certain methodologies that I've found to work better than anything else, although most of those are knife safety things where if someone does it wrong I get anxious because it's dangerous, to the point that I'll insist on taking the knife away from them and chopping or peeling something myself if they won't hold it right.
culinary nationalism is a drug. its also nonsense too.
ESPECIALLY for Italy, a country that's younger than the United States, and who's language is actually 20 languages in a trench coat.
For most of post-Roman history a Venician and a Scicilian would have had absolutely no reason to associate with one another, culturally.
I'd blame Giuseppe Garibaldi, but he was actually kinda based
Come to Türkiye, we have the most reactionary people on the culinary nationalism. The idea of other neighboring nations having similar food to ours is enough to make an average Turkish seethe and mald.
I say to the turk all his food was invented in Greece and i say to the the greek all his food was invented in turkey
Fastest way to get yourself killed. We also have a "disagreement" with Armenians about some dolma varieties.
culinary nationalism
dang this is too accurate
Sometimes, sometimes I snap the spaghetti in half before cooking it just to make an Italian cry.

For anyone not getting the amazing layers of this gif in the context of the comment. The actor playing the "crying Indian" in the old green washing ad campaign this is clipped from was actually Italian.
who the hell invented caring about that, lol.
It was “I’m married to an Italian man” instagram circa 2024
But then you can't do one long continuous slurp 
so what? you're just supposed to have one side be cooked a whole minute longer than the other? have a 10% margin of error on your cook time??
This thread is full of Americans pretending like their stereotypes of other nationalities are real and then also yanks being mad that they're getting stereotyped as the "hotdog and french fry" place
The worst part is when they get an emotional attachment to the particular way their great-grandma made it, even if it’s blatantly culinarily wrong. Like, my wife’s uncle married this Italian woman, and her mom got on my MIL’s case for using sautéed onions in her tomato sauce. Yes, she thought one of the most fundamental culinarily bases was wrong because that’s the way her lowlife Sicilian family did it.
I need you to, at least roughly, write down this fucked up recipe for me
i did learn how to make my pasta better after listening to Italians. i think we yankees all learned to dump the sauce on top from the same prego commercial
listening to italians
MODS! MODS! BAN THIS PERSON
oh gosh oh geez ive been made 
Mama mia my alfa romeo broke down after 3 miles. Time to fill the tank with caca e peepee
this would be a lot more compelling if the food in italy weren't among the best in the world
Top 3 European cuisines for sure

you've done it now
This shouldn’t be in bad posting.
Italian food is delicious. But holy fuck, most of it’s as conceptually difficult as making a baked potato
Fix It Again Tony
Oh no my tomato bread isnt traditional. Oh no my egg on pasta has bacon in it the world is ending wont anyone think about how special we are. We used to be the romans you know!!


yeah, but back then they ate bread and olives with fermented fish sauce and drank vinegar with it. no pasta, not a tomato in sight. just people, stabbing each other while trying to get the taste of vinegar out of their mouths.
Reject gastro-nationalism
Embrace Alberto Grandi thought
Pasta is Chinese. Raviolis are dumplings. Tomato is American.
Oh you invented putting cheese on bread, did you?
Oh you invented putting cheese on bread, did you?
Jumping off of this: The foodsphere, even removed from the italians, knows a lot of "nooo that's not correct". The only thing as annoying as the italians though are the people who think the Earl of Sandwich invented that. It's putting literally a thing in bread, people have been doing it since we have bread
I'm a fan of americans that are cheese sandwich purists, and if you put any ingredient besides cheese in there it becomes a "melt" not a "cheese sandwich". this was a big deal on reddit in 2019 i think
you can one-up these people by pointing out a grilled cheese is just a type of panini that also includes melts
omg one of my most favorite reddit rants of all time!
You People Make Me Sick
A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire subreddit consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. The fact that this subreddit is called "grilledcheese" is nothing short of utter blasphemy.
Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese.
I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 21 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. But if you want to add some pulled pork and take a picture of it, make your own subreddit entitled "melts" because that is not a fucking grilled cheese.
I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being.
Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this account for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over reddit and it's been driving me insane. The moment I saw this subreddit this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own subreddit just because I know this one exists now.
You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt
oh my god someone else thinks Italian food is overrated? I’m not alone huzzah
I will put pineapple on my pizza and the more upset you get the more pineapple I will put on my pizza
Fking eyetalians put french fries and hot dogs on pizza and call it "pizza Americana" but they cry about pineapple lol

That's just Italians being funny
This reminds me of a old ass buzzfeed video that was like "Chinese-American Millennials and their grandparents eat Chinese-american food" and all the Millennials were "wow this is so inauthentic and fake, i hate this"
While the grandparents were like "hey we didnt have this back home, but it doesn't taste half bad"