I'm just blocking all political/news communities on sight. It's helped a lot.
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This is the (only) way, but it's also like infinite whack-a-mole except slightly more irritating.
Either avoid the All tab and block all the political communities or just use your subbed tab and use https://lemmyverse.net/ to find interesting communites
Yeah, the only way to enjoy lemmy is heavily, heavily curated. My community blocklist is over 300 entries these days ...
To me that signals someone deeply in their bubble.
But sure, you have that option... Block me too, this comment is probably also too spicy. :)
Politics is kinda the default for lemmy.world, lemmy.hexbear, and lemmy.ml. If you don't want politics, join an alternate server rather than .world. Or, alternatively, start curating your list of communities to block the comms channels that provide politics. That latter option is kinda what I did.
Listen I have left leaning politics but does every other post have to be about some political shit on the all tab,
Just every other? You must've spent quite some time filtering shit already, then.
You see, if you don't like all the ragebait you are No True Leftist. Disagree with anyone at any time? Gotta hand that card in, bro, 'cause you've got to be some fascist or something. Or "shitlib" or whatever cringe terminology the tankies use. This may come as a shock to you but at least Random Angry Dipshit was kind enough to inform you about your entire political stance that you thought was something radically different. Neat trick, right? Aren't you grateful? I know I am.
I feel like I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities because all is just a political circle jerk that I don’t care about.
Correct! It's also an unappealing and rather significant workload trying to find real activity on real communities on here to subscribe to, so /all is kinda it. Discoverability is garbage, one of many upshots of the way the federation gimmick was implemented.
Not to mention the moment I came back I saw a fucking flow chart on the instances drama of the week. If I wasn’t so dedicated to dropping Reddit I think the average Joe would have left by now seeing all of this.
I'm sure they mostly do, if they ever even learn of this place at all. That's why it keeps being like this. Parts of the fedv are indistinguishable from satire or outright trolling - that's not counting explicitly blatant troll instances like ml, gr*d and hb. I'd seriously thought some of the leftist infighting meme was... y'know, a meme.... Or that "here, I disagree with this one thing you said and now you're banned from X communities", from people who spent the last sentence whining about Reddit moderators. (They are right in isolation, just big blubbering hypocrites.)
I’m not saying there ISNT other type of content on lemmy or piefed it just feels like the stuff that floats to the top is political
Engagementbait on a platform that isn't even pushing "the algorithm" that way. Nifty, right?
It's not going to change, or even get any less of a pain to try to curate unless tooling gets better. It won't, because the Lemmy devs at least are tankie idiots who have no interest in making anything easy to curate (because then, the very first thing to go is their main shitholes for being blatant assholes to everyone except dictators)
Edit: on that note, instance blocks on ml, gr*d and hb are an absolute must
I have been recently struggling to not go back to reddit after 3 years on Lemmy...
Almost everything I read here just makes my mood worse and the people are getting worse and worse. I really hoped it would work as a reddit alternative but it's exactly the opposite.
AI mods, what is going to happen in those subs, just AI generated posts? it wont help in training thier AI if its just those. or they going to try to force the human mods out?
Sort by all and block as you go, I feel like that's easier.
What kind of posts are you looking for?
Because the upvotes are controlling what people want.
I really don’t see that many political posts in my subscribed feed and don’t see all that much on my Lemmy.world all feed either.
Most of my blocks have been just furry porn and the worst tankies on .ml
Lemmy.world is defederated from hexbear, Lemmygrad, and beehaw so maybe try blocking those instances if it’s too much for you
Delete the All feed! It's just stupid. Subscribe to what you like. Maybe have a short glimpse at the All feed on a biweekly basis for 5min, but that's it.
I browse all but I have an extensive set of word filters that block stuff that I don't want to see. I like seeing new communities come up and trying to make All work because of that. I did the same thing with Reddit like 20 years ago, though I switched to a subscribed feed there once they got big (before I left). This strategy works well for me.
How do you find what you like? I sew, and do dollhouse miniatures, but I haven't seen any of that on the fediverse yet.
Be the change you want to see.
For now you could post to !Art_Alchemist_Guild@lemmy.today which has a little bit of everything. I'd love to check out your projects.
!newcommunities@discuss.online
give those a scroll and see if anything works for you.
also search for topics you enjoy, or things you would expect to find as a subreddit. i usually sub to the top couple matches by population. this can backfire when i see the same post multiple times in (for example) 4 different linux coms. not everything wil have a com, but thats ok. make one if you feel strongly enough about it.
when i first joined a few years ago there was a tool that would try to find matches for your subreddits. i cant remember what it was called or if it still exists, but give it a look
a combo between the two is to find the list of your subs on reddit, then search them all one by one in lemmy. it takes time, but it will set you up reasonably well
pay attentiin when things are crossposted, maybe you would like one of those communities too
that and just stick with it. youll find your place.
edit: my links at the top broke
Check out lemmyverse.net to find communities. If you set your home instance (top right, button with a home icon, enter slrpnk.net in your case), then it will open the page where you can subscribe directly. There's a longer guide here with more tips: https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/threadiverse/finding-communities
If you aren't sure what you want to subscribe to, there is a list pinned on !communitypromo@lemmy.ca ~~@blaze@piefed.zip had an amazing list of non-politics communities that unfortunately I can't seem to find right now.~~
Once Lemmy releases the big v1 update, both Lemmy and Piefed will have multi-communities that you can subscribe to in order to get a lot of similar content.
As for your requests specifically, check out these. Some are more relevant than others, and the small ones grow as interested people post to them:
- !imadethis@lemmy.zip
- !sewing@lemmy.world
- !diy@beehaw.org
- !artshare@lemmy.world
- !crochet@lemmy.ca (as an example of a community that grew over time)
- !sewingrepairing@sh.itjust.works
- !dollhouse@lemmy.world
Slrpnk also has a full list of every community on it and I love that
Also, not who you're responding to but I just subbed to all of those, thank you!
No problem!
I default to subscribed+scaled, and I check all+top 6-24 hours when I feel like staying on top of news. It works pretty well.
I did a couple things to make my life comfy here.
I changed my default sort to be "new comments" - this gave me the biggest perspective change on Lemmy, I now see where the active conversations are and it makes the place feel more full of people and less pages and pages of empty threads. I also found a lot less political stuff this way, because it gets posted a lot but people only interact with just a few of the political posts, so only those one end up floating to the top. I am finding myself getting less politics this way on Lemmy than I was on reddit. Also has the added bonus of highlighting where the active communities are.
I blocked Lemmy.ml and hexbear. A lot of the wilder leftist stuff comes from them and once it was blocked I saw the amount of politics in my feed drop right away.
"New Comments" is underrated! Active is pretty good too. For my default I use Subscribed+Scaled so I don't miss anything, but if I'm looking for engagement I use New Comments or Active. The Hot sort kinda sucks on Lemmy lol, it's too similar to New. But OP is on PieFed, IDK how Hot is there, it uses different math.
Subscribed+Scaled is my jam too. I've unsubscribed from a few of the news communities because I've seen the same post too many times but otherwise, all is pretty good here.
I’m surprised how many people use subscribed+scaled. I’ve been doing that as soon as the scaled feature was added.
I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities because all is just a political circle jerk that I don’t care about.
Come on, this is not a problem. It's a feature. As another user said in another reply, having a algorithm curating your feed ends up curating you. It's even easier here than on reddit since you can even block whole instances! Block the ones that have the most political communities and you will be fine.
I agree with you on one thing, the lack of content on topics that are not tech or political related. But that falls on us, the users. I hope more communities will continue to grow in the future.
Not to mention the moment I came back I saw a fucking flow chart on the instances drama of the week.
I don't know, for me at least, it has been pretty funny, especially these days. You enter fediverse@lemmy.world, see the big pinned thread that says "Don't whine", and then hundreds of people whining. It gives me a chuckle.
Yeah, I keep having to remind myself of that. Healthier tech is less convenient and not automatically tailored to our interests/desires by design. More convenience and automatic personalization means more psychological manipulation (at best, into spending more time on the platform so you will see more ads), as well as more data collection and less privacy.
I believe you're somehow subsconciously expecting an algorithm to curate your feed.
On Lemmy that work is on you.
If you don't curate your own feed, the feed curates you, and then someone, somewhere, is going to have to clean that mess up sometime.
“Every facet, every department of your mind, is to be programmed by you. And unless you assume your rightful responsibility, and begin to program your own mind, the world will program it for you." — Jack Kornfield
When I'm scrolling any feed, whenever I see a post I don't want to see, I block that community or add a keyword to my filters.
So far I've blocked over a hundred communities and it's killed most of the adrenal rage-bait political posts that don't do anything other than rile people me up. It's one thing to be aware of shitty things happening but it's another thing to doomscroll just for the adrenaline hit.
Yeah, no matter your political leanings, you gotta approach the fediverse in reverse of the way reddit worked. Reddit, you went and subbed to the things you were interested in and only went to the all feed if you wanted random discovert.
With lemmy, piefed and mbin (or kbin, whichever is still in use), you have to default to the all feed because there's only so much activity per community, which means discovery is much harder and your subscribed feed takes months sometimes to get filled in with useful things. It's more efficient and enjoyable to spend the time pruning out the non enjoyed stuff from the all feed so that you have access to more things overall.
That's helped by app that have filters. You can weed out a lot of bullshit just with keywords preventing specific topics coming up even in communities you are in.
The fediverse is more work on the user's part to make work. I don't consider that a bad thing overall, but it does make it hard for ex redditors (aka r/effugees) to on board, and can be confusing for total newcomers to threaded forums.
Tbh though, ten plus years ago, the initial reddit experience for a noob there was worse in many ways. Hell, outright hostile at times, if you were a noob that dared speak your mind against the zeitgeist of a given sub. At least here, you usually only run into that if you're not fairly solidly leftist, or try to hate on linux. That's much easier to deal with imo.
I really miss the old wild west of reddit, but you're totally right it was a much more insane and hostile place for anyone not conforming to the circlejerk. These kinds of smaller communities starting out are also not made for the kinda late adopters that may be wanting to come over and not even just lurk but doomscroll for hours. People will have the best experience if they find a dopamine hit in creating and sharing original content or they can handle lurking for a few minutes at a time and then going out and touching grass the rest of the day.
but does every other post have to be about some political shit on the all tab,
There's a reason it's called the "All" tab and not the "Some" tab, and even then it's mostly making an effort.
The fediverse stuff is already set on the tooling for that. Set your feed view away from All to, say, Subscribed, and block the stuff you don't like.
Adding for context that one reason for this is that Lemmy was created by radical (to remain consensual) leftists, and the default instance (also maybe the first big one) they administrate Lemmy.ml (ML stands for Marxist-Leninist) has the same leaning population.
But, so far, afaik, the software itself is still neutral, so you can find instances and communities that fit your needs.
However, this initial leaning is still going to surface from time to time even after spending time blocking the instances and communities you don't want to see, as users can move around freely.
Hey, welcome back.
piefed.world hasn't really invested much into populating their Explore menu, to make finding communities easier.
I've just added a few feeds though, check out https://piefed.world/feeds
Also https://feddit.online/topics is an amazing directory of all the communities. It's a separate instance to piefed.world though so when you find good communities you'll need to manually copy their address into your piefed.world account. Or just move yourself to feddit.online...
Yeah, I get it, I wish more people used lemmy and that there is more apolitical stuff on here