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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 hours ago

Again, why aren't there metal detectors at the entrances to MRI machines everywhere? For the cost of those machines, the cost of a metal detector is peanuts

[–] MadnessForTsar@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

9 kilograms Necklace?! What kind of necklace is that?

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This was not Mr. T.

This was Mr. D Capitated.

Ooh mind you don't cut yourself on all that edge!

[–] obsolete@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

He didn't see the new Final Destination movie.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The man, 61, had entered the MRI room while a scan was underway

How was that allowed?

he asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table.

...while the machine was still working? And isn't that the job of the technician anyway?

the technician helped her try to pull her husband off the machine but it was impossible.

Those machines have a kill-switch for a reason.

I call this BS or a very incompetent technician.
Plus a Darwin award for the guy.

[–] UnspecificGravity@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Couple things:

The magnet is ALWAYS on.

The "kill switch" takes about five minutes to actually deactivate the magnet and it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Isn't it an electomagnet?

it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

Oh, right, i forgot human lives have a price in the US.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The US is an outlier in how it charges prices for healthcare services.

But every country in the world has prices charged for cold liquid helium. It's very expensive to gather, process, store, and ship, regardless of what kind of health care economics apply in your country.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 47 minutes ago

And in fact, doesn't the US have most of the world's supply of helium?

[–] UnspecificGravity@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Its a superconducting magnet that cannot be instantly shut off. I am sorry that the physics of this makes you so angry.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on the machine type. Closed bore machines (the vast majority) use supercunducting electromagnets that are surrounded by liquid helium that creates a very strong magnetic field. To demagnetize them requires dumping the helium.

Some open bore machines use electromagnets, but they're much less common and not as powerful.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

So the helium itself becomes magnetized, is that it?

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 hour ago

the helium is liquid, which it only is when it is very very cold.
The superconductor will keep it's magnetic field forever, as long as it's superconducting, and it will stay superconducting while it is very very cold.

There is physically no way (as in, it is simply impossible, due to how our world works, not money, not people, not technology) to instantly "switch off" the magnet.

it needs to go above a certain temperature, to lose it's superconducting nature, and it needs to do it at a pace that doesn't dump a GINORMOUS amount of energy in this magnetic field instantly, because that would be even worse.

the fault here is in allowing anyone with any magnetic metal anywhere near an MRI. And whoever let that happen is going to have a very bad week.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

No, the liquid helium cools the magnets to the point where they become superconductive. As to how that works exactly, I do not know. I don't think I have the math for it.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I'm sure he was barely trained and had specific instructions to "never push that button!" When you whole life in the country is tied to your employment, it's every moron for themselves.

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's not an electromagnet, it's a superconducting magnet. And turning it immediately off makes it melt.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's both! MRI magnets are electromagnets that are cooled down to 4 Kelvin using liquid helium. Once they reach those low temperatures, they become superconducting. This way, the magnet isn't gobbling up tons of electricity to stay at the desired field strength. Instead, the liquid helium needs to be replenished occasionally to keep it at superconducting temperature. Source: I work with MRI scanners.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

TIL, thanks

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 24 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Surely 9kg necklace isn't something you can just sneak around with, how was he allowed to get close enough to an MRI machine in the first place wearing it?

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

I would need an entourage of physiotherapists if I had the bling to roll with a 9kg necklace.

Imagine how dope my rhymes would be though. A man can dream....

Hospitals aren’t jails or high security government facilities. I could walk around a hospital right now and walk into an MRI room and nobody would physically stop me. I used to work in a hospital and we had a long meeting about signs, because a cleaner didn’t look at the door sign and walked into an MRI room with a metal floor buffer.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

1kg =2.2 pounds. more like a 20 pound necklace.

[–] WillFord27@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

So glad to find that Lemmy is even less empathetic than reddit was. Real faith in humanity killer. Shocking how many people decided to comment without touching the article, really proud to be here..

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Reading more about the story I wonder how much of it is true

You can't just "walk into an MRI room", for one

When the MRI is working you definitely can't just walk in. Nobody is in there because of the radiation, so i doubt they just have an open door policy

Then, when there is an emergency like, you know, someone being strangled with a 9kg necklace on his neck by the machine's magnetism, you can press the kill switch that will quench the magnet by venting out all cooling liquid. This will damage the machine and is also a very expensive little joke, but it would save the life of that guy. Why didn't they do that?

It's a similar story to the guy that went into an MRI with a gun, causing it to fire and kill the guy.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just going through the comments spreading MRI information (source: work with MRI scanners). There is no radiation danger from MRI.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Just a very strong magnetic field that makes having ferrous objects on your person a hazardous thing to do.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I recently tried spreading the word to other MRI folks about the dangers of 'magnetic eyelashes', which i learned was a thing from my fiance. Kind of suprised we havent seen any incidents with those, thankfully.

[–] doktormerlin@feddit.org 5 points 4 hours ago

Nobody is in there because of the radiation

What are you saying, there is no radiation in an MRI Scanner. It works with Magnets instead of X-Rays.

Nobody is in there because usually there is only one operator and this guy sits in the next room at his metal computer, which can't be in the MRI room, looking at the scan results. The doors are closed because MRIs are loud as hell.

[–] Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

Did no one else read the story? I read it and it sounds moreso the clinic's fault

The necklace he was wearing was a steel weighted exercise band, not a normal necklace. He's not flexing his wealth or anything

His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

Seems like the technician was told by the wife to bring her husband in to help her up. The technician/clinic made a mistake by letting in the husband, who didn't seem properly warned about MRIs no metal policy. The technician also somehow didn't catch the giant "necklace" he'd be wearing.

The "he wasn't supposed to be there" seems like a coverup for their mistake, since how else would he have known to go in? Someone must've told him to walk into the room, it's not like he could hear through the door.

Edit: 100% the technicians fault, the technician saw it. It even had a metal padlock.

They’d even discussed his training and the hard-to-miss chain with the MRI technician during their previous appointments, Jones-McAllister said.
“That was not the first time that guy has seen that chain” on her husband, she said. “They had a conversation about it before.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/long-island-man-killed-in-freak-mri-accident-was-wearing-20-pound-chain-necklace-with-padlock/ar-AA1IXop6

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I'm not saying it's the husband's fault, but I don't think it's 100% on the technician either.

I read it more like she asked the technician to get her husband and called out to her husband who presumably just walked in.

Also, "they discussed the chain on a previous visit" doesn't really change anything. Depending on how many people that technician sees and when that last visit was, they might've just forgotten.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

Thank the gods for you. I was reading these comments thinking I was insane.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

RIP Mr T.

That's some Final Destination shit right there.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

One and only one headstone that includes a mention of a big ass magnet as the cause of death in rap format.

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